What If Killer Instinct Had An M Rating Would We Have No Mercies Or Is A Possible To Have Them With A T Rating ( Made the title more specific)

The classics were rated T, and the modern iteration of KI, the one that just received Season 3, is also rated T. I know what logic is, I just don’t understand yours is all, namely because you seem so random at times.

So if Rare accomplished to keep all the fatalities on the SNES under a T rating, could IG, if they wanted to, do the same thing under a T rating? You don’t need an M rating to drop an arcade cabinet on people.

And having an M rating just to make the game sound more adult and appealing? That’s the most tasteless of arguments I’ve ever heard. Since when do you need an M rating to “sit at the cool people’s table?”

No they cannot accomplish keeping all the fatalities from the snes under a T rating, thus the M rating for porting the exact same game to Xbox One! English isn’t your first language is it? If they wanted to add no mercies/fatalities with the same level of violence and gore as KI 1 and 2 to the 2013 game “they would have to have the game rated M”.

No, what it means is they added the Riptor cutscene where he’s eating meat off the bones off a corpse for his win pose. When they pulled that cutscene from the Arcade version, then it hit the T rating for the SNES and N64 versions.

The rating system may evolve, but if you’re telling me, the version on the SNES and N64 is more graphic than the modern version, and yet doesn’t need to be rated above T, and by the same scale, which remains fairly much the same over 20 years, this modern version can not support these features without an M rating, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

Dude, at this point, I’m convinced you want an M rating “just because.”

Excuse my mistake but i started this thread base on me thinking both versions of the game was rated M back in the day. I also assumed that the resaons we had no finishers was because they wanted to maintain a T rating. So Why not put No mercies in the game if they won’t affect the rating. The No Mercies were a staple of the game just like the combo system and the ultra finishers maybe no as big but it was a part of the Killer Instinct legacy so I dont see if why they should not be in the game. Im not looking for KI to be MK but growing up playing the originals I want KI to be KI even if it has been rehashed for this day and time. Me like many others being fans of the game waited many years for this its not wrong for us to want something reminiscent of what the original was. I’m sure most if not all of us in this current thread isnt looking for Mk style finishers but finisher in line or similar to what the classics were like. If the rating isnt an issue me personally i would have been fine if the original characters had there old no mercies and they gave the new characters something that fit a similar profile. But in any event im just glad K.I. is back and it a quality game that can contend with MK and SF and i dont think there is anything wrong with fans wanting this version to have a similar profile to the originals. Hopefully the next version of Killer Instinct has no mercies along with everything else this version of it has added to the franchise

Yes, you read that correctly. The ESRB has rated the Pin Ultimate Edition of Killer Instinct M for Mature. The reason has nothing to do with the Xbox One title, however, as it’s largely in- part because of the original Killer Instinct Arcade game that comes with the package. In other words, KI Classic has been re-rated as Mature. Read below to find out why…

This is a fighting game in which players battle human and fantasy creatures in one-on-one contests of strength. Players punch, kick, and throw each other in attempts to deplete opponents’ health meters. Some characters also use weapons such as swords, claws, knives and fireballs. The action is frenetic, and certain attacks cause the camera to zoom in or shake the entire screen. Large blood-splatter effects sometimes occur during fights, staining the ground. Characters perform more dramatic finishing moves that involve impaling/stabbing, throwing opponents off buildings, melting opponents into pools of lava. At the end of fight scenes, there are occasional depictions of dead carcass eaten by victors or bloody meat in victors’ mouths. During the course of the game, a female character is depicted in a revealing outfit, as her breasts sometimes bounce. A female character also performs a finishing move in which she flashes her breasts at an opponent—though only her back is depicted.


Please be quiet, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Also, the original games were the arcade games! The console ports were stripped of a lot of the violence and gore to get a T rating instead of the original M rating. A lot of you weren’t even alive when the original game came out. lmao That’s why you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. :wink:

/thread the base game should be rated M and they should add no mercy finishers, real ones, not that garbage Jago one.

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Oh look it’s this thread again…

KI doesn’t need to be rated M because the developers are working perfectly fine within the confines of the T rating. So in essence there is no reason KI should be rated M.

Convenient you want to focus on that version, considering you remove the pins from the equation and you get the T-Rated version of the game. Funny, you didn’t seem to mention that…maybe there’s a reason you would want to hide that fact that modern KI is T-rated. Maybe it’s because the M-rated version of KI1 is packaged with the T-rated modern version of the game, therefore making the bundle M-rated? I do believe you’re twisting the truth.

Take your own advice.

They were stripped of cutscenes, the core fatality system was still in play with nothing changed. The cutscenes weren’t even removed for content reasons, it was a fact that the old SNES and N64 carts had nowhere near the storage capacity of arcade games at the time, and they couldn’t fit. How much do you really know? Seriously, the combo breakers, specials and other animations weren’t changed at all, and they made a T rating. You have no honest idea what you’re talking about at this point.

Unless you were born in the 70’s, I doubt you’re older than me. So unless you have a legitimate argument based in logic, and you aren’t twisting facts and history for your own personal benefit, we’re done.

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I thought the reason given for the T rating the last few times this thread came up was because the @developers said "we don’t want to."
I’m indifferent to the idea of gore. I’ve liked games with it, I’ve liked games without it. But I think that the addition of content that would push the game into M rated territory on its own had been pretty succinctly dismissed by IG/MS… Twice at least, if memory serves.

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I’m done talking to you, you just don’t get it. You are either trolling at this point or extremely dense. I’m not taking the bait, enjoy.

Oh really, so the devs are pretty much just jerks. Yea, we don’t want to is not a valid reason for a developer to not implement highly requested features. There are thousands of valid reason they could have given, though they would most likely be lying, we don’t want to isn’t one of them. That’s a real d-bag move.

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No, there were far more descriptive reasons than that, which you can read here in it’s locked and captured glory.

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Continuing the discussion from The KI is too "YOLO" Debate:

Continuing the discussion from By 2016 would you like KI to be reclasified as an M rated game? POLL:

To tempus not sure how to quote just his parts.
Here’s one just off the top of my head. MKX came out and stomped KI into the ground sales wise. In 2016 an M rating on a free to play game will stop next to no one under 17 from downloading and playing the game. More mature content added to a game can bring in additional adults to the game, you know the kind with money to spend. I could continue to list reasons but there is no point, you guys clearly do not care what players of the game want, only what you want!

Let’s be real, the majority aren’t asking for MKX level of gore but the original KI and KI2 level of gore, violence, and sexuality. To be honest it was quite mild at the time and even more so now.

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It’s amazing how much we have to Barneyfy things for people.

I didn’t even scroll through the rest of the thread because I have to comment on this. World wide attention? The big one? There is an interesting sect of people who seem to praise KI2/gold who surround this forum. I think it’s reality check time.

KI2/gold did not sell well. KI2/gold was not well received. The masses do not think back to killer instinct and remember KI2/gold, they remember the original. It was not a great game. There are countless things about that game that were steps backwards. Instead of going off on its own originality, it doubled down on being a parody of mk and over sexualisation. I laugh at the people who demand ultimates and more over the top finishers. These are not what define a killer instinct game.

You know what killed KI for over 15 years? KI2/gold. Do you really think Nintendo would have had any desire at all to bring this franchise back? People claiming that ki needs all this added fluff because a bad game did it 20 years ago blows my mind. I understand there are those who really had fun with KI2/gold, but you need to step back and be realistic about the legacy of that game.

They brought all the truly great things from old KI back and turned it into something that fits the times and makes a mark of its own without needing other franchises to mock in order to succeed.

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Knowledge we both share.

Ahh, this topic again.

Well, it’s certainly possible for No Mercies/Ultimates to return in a T rating fashion as we’ve seen already.

There are currently no plans for this rating to change per the Creative Director:

KI was never focused on gore, it was focused on combos.

The game wasn’t built around gore as its selling point. It was build on a bombastic announcer, its SGI look (amazing for the time) and its combo system.

We have yet to create a character or have an idea that we can’t do with T. Hisako’s impale was the only change we’ve had to make in (now) 3 seasons because we felt it was getting out of T.

While some here don’t get the idea that parents actually care about what their kids play, we do, and we want to create a game that parents can be OK with their kids playing.

M limits what we can do on a promotion front and how and where we can show the game. Certain countries will simply refuse to sell the game if it is M rated. We don’t want that.

No one on the team believes that KI needs or wants an M rating. We have drug-addicted werewolves, killer robots, a cybernetic carnivore, blood that splatters the ground… and we’re all in T. That’s just fine, thanks.

and for reference, here’s where the quote is from. Link to the thread

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Your points are refuted above. It’s not necessarily what we want, rather the direction promoted above by @TempusChaoti. We get some people may want more mature rated content, however, it’s not in plans at least for this iteration; personally don’t see it happening in the other iterations either at least in the near future.

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Debate points. Not others.

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A) MK had multiple releases over 20 years to maintain its popularity. KI didn’t. That’s why MKX sold more - it’s fanbase was still there. For KI, that fanbase had to be rebuilt from a much smaller base.

B) You throw out a lot of group terms in your posts, when you really shouldn’t. For example, you say that “the majority aren’t asking for…” How do you know? Did you ask EVERYONE? No, you didn’t, so you can’t possibly account for a majority. Speak for yourself, not others.

C) A F2P M-rated game WILL stop a lot of 17 year olds from playing it. Want to know why? No money (for combo and ultra editions), no Internet, parents who abhore violence - there’s a lot of reasons why minors won’t be able to play it.

D) While an M-rating can certainly bring in additional adults, the opposite is also true. Many adults also detest violence and actively avoid it in all facets of their lives, including video games.

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KI Gold sold well for being on just one system. So, what you’re really saying is the N64 didn’t sell well, that’s true, especially early on around the time the game was released. It’s the second worst selling Nintendo console of all time I believe. The game was very well received by the people who matter, the players. The N64 was however the multiplayer system of choice for most people. I’m willing to bet twice as many played and loved Gold vs the original. No online back then, if you wanted to play against someone it was arcades or a console, you had to go in person! So, KI Gold had a higher percentage of sales per console most definitely, the original barely outselling Gold by like 100k, if I remember the article I read correctly. Your argument has been complete shattered. Pretty much no one talks about the original because it wasn’t that great.

What killed KI was Microsoft buying Rare and sitting on the franchise, fact. This version of KI is bad in comparison to Gold, I mean just awful if you compare it to that classic game.

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Hear, Hear!

A. False MK was almost dead not to long ago. lmfao Learn your history before you speak on it.
B. I can gauge based on the comments given, I don’t see very many people asking for MKX level of gore, violence, etc…
C. Just about everyone has internet in 1st world countries. You don’t need a lot of money to play this game, please try to keep up. That tiny amount of kids with hypersensitive parents wouldn’t let them play the base game either. lmao

D. You’re not making any sense, you logic is full of fail. If they detest violence they wouldn’t be playing this game regardless of the gore level. Please try to use some common sense before making posts.

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