Why we don't have successful Omen players at championships? Does Omen really needs buffs?

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Outside me no one is even close to being a pro on this thread. Im the only one who’s really sponsored…and I wouldn’t even call myself a pro. This isn’t my day job and I generally only hop on no 2-3 times a week. In fact most stronger players I know don’t play every day. Just a few times a week. Even some don’t even play until it’s around tournament time. and storm and dul are the only ones far as i know that are really competitive on this thread.

the only people commenting on this thread are more or less casuals. They’re also telling you its not a problem with the character. Just you. Whether your casual or competitive that makes no difference.

I also don’t know what this whole “pro ego” nonsense is. Admitting a character is very strong and having evidence to back it up isn’t ego. Neither is proving someone’s point wrong when they spread misinformation.

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Well then you dont know many ppl on this thread because there are more than the 2 names that are competitive and have been to several offline and online tournaments…alll on this thread

Its kind of rude to say NO one is even close to being a pro…that is kind of the “pro ego” he is talking aout IMO. Prob best to just not say that at all. What does that accomplish?

“So called Casuals on this thread”
Myself FallofSerapsh76
@DEClimax
@TheNinjaOstrich
@MaruMDQ
@SneerfulWater57
@MBABanemobius
@Dayv0

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No, he’s totally right. I’m way closer to being a casual player than I am a pro, or even just competitive. I hardly go to events and don’t really enter online tournaments. I approach analysis from a competitive standpoint, but in terms of play, not so much.

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I’m a casual player, so no offense taken.

In my eyes there are two type of players: profesional, or not proffesional.

The former gets paid for playing, or earns good amounts of money playing. The latter.. doesn’t.

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He might be right concerning you in your eyes but calling the rest of us casuals is insulting.

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I know all of them. Declimax and davy have called themselves casual in the past. I didnt see ostritch comment. I met him at CEO. I’m not sure how competitive maru still is. I remember her making a post about not being as much since the game doesn’t get as much support in her country. And from talking with him a lot bane seems to have a similar approach to climax. Sneerful hit me up for practice not long ago. You’re the only one I’m really unfamiliar with tbh. Also being casual isn’t an insult. Unless you wish to take it that way. When I say pro I mean I’m contracted and paid to do this. I don’t think anyone else fits that.

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Only if you choose to view it as an insult. Actually, I find that your breakdown of the difference between a competitive and casual player is needlessly reductive. It’s not a binary thing, it’s messy and hard to pin down. There are people that play very competitively and seriously, in their own way, but are most definitely casual players. Likewise, there are people who may play the game very casually, but are primarily interested in its competitive depth. It would be better to try and avoid viewing the playerbase as being so neatly divided into different categories. Like most things involving humans that people try to categorize, it isn’t nearly as simply or clearly defined as people think it is.

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He is referring to “pro” as “someone who gets paid to play the game” via sponsorships or whatever. You can be a good player and not a pro. In that sense, his definition seems to make sense, since he is the only sponsored player in this thread.

And yes, a person can play a lot and want to win each time they play, but still be casual players. Or people can very rarely play, but still know a lot about the game (like me, perhaps). I wouldn’t classify myself as a pro in any respect, but I like to contribute to conversations anyway.

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Thanks for sticking up for me Fall, I probably fit more I the competitive bracket to be honest as I do actually enter a fair few tournaments, most of the offline ones around the UK (not including all the local monthlies up in Scotland) and a fair few online ones, but don’t really make that much of an impact outside of making a few top 8s in the EU tournaments (which don’t get masses of exposure so I can see why it wouldn’t really be known about). Evidently in the lower half of the bracket for now though.

But it wasn’t meant as an insult so I haven’t taken it as one, although as mentioned I appreciate the shout out.

On topic there’s a pretty good Omen player in the UK called SegaZoom who often gives me trouble, I definitely couldn’t pick Spinal against him now as that MU is a nightmare, glad I have Eyedol for that one.

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I know what he is referring too…I explained that way earlier in the thread. But to say none of us are even close and we are all casuals…is insulting IMO

SO Storm and Dul are not casuals but the rest of us are even though we have all been to the same events, and done just as well as Dul…OK

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[quote=“Infilament, post:68, topic:21386”]
And yes, a person can play a lot and want to win each time they play, but still be casual players. Or people can very rarely play, but still know a lot about the game (like me, perhaps). I wouldn’t classify myself as a pro in any respect, but I like to contribute to conversations anyway.

This. I’ll listen to infil or bastfree’s opinion on something any day. So yes being casual or not a pro or anything like that isn’t an insult. Pro or competitive…we all started casual. And there are some players who are really such as fubuki or shadow nikkos who both consider themselves casual.

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Also note how I said “far as i know”. Meaning I wasn’t 100%sure on that.

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Fair enough… Ill take that as we are now on the same page…somewhat.
:slight_smile:

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I think at this point, I’m edging slowly towards more competitive. But, that’s just me.

But like people said, it’s hard to pin down.

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That’s why I prefer my own classification

Earn (a decent amount of)money? Pro

Doesn’t earn money? Casual

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Well I get paid… NOT to play, ergo normal job. :smile:

#notasluckyas @MnTLetalis #

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@FallofSeraphs76
Thanks for the mention =3

But but..I got a medal this April :cry:
:sweat_smile:
…
Long post incoming, but just to talk about what happened with me and KI and the local scene
…
Thanks to people that ran exhibitions with me and helped me train and of course spending a huge time in the lab to work on my character I got first place in an important offline tourney in my country. Regarding online, I feel bad saying I couldn’t get the win, but ended in top 3 most of the times. ( because I had it but I lost composure when some persons started saying dumb things and affecting me..You know, the things related to being a woman who plays a fighter)

The scene here? I really don’t know, but the are some persons that actually “play”. The strange things is there’s “no scene bewteen players from the same country”, despite my efforts to run lobbies or spaces to train and get the players together, sharing all kind of videos and data .
I even suspect some guys from other fighter communities commented that a woman won KI because no man plays it seriously (they don’t kow I had to play one of the best players here and former top 3 ranked Omen in Grand finals and how he reset the game, he would have destroyed those guys in a ft. I do believe it even tho he isn’t playing anymore). But what I can tell you is that NONE of them wanted to play me either, not fts, no offline or whatever . They rather make fun of the guys who lost against a woman, but they won’t play me either shrug

I’m no pro,nobody pays me to play the game either and I’m probably not good enough to beat the top players. But I like that competitive term they wrote above. Well, maybe I get too anxious sometimes but that’s no weird in tourneys or any competition, is part of it. But at least I can say that I commit to the game and try to do the best I can when I have to play seriously.
When I face someone that’s really ahead of me in reads and overall skill, I think of learning from my mistakes and then trying to have a nice match.

Currently if I play I’m usually playing it in a “casual way” (meaning I don’t commit to training, points nor rank).

I took a rest after that tourney and started worrying about non gaming life issues and taking care of it . Yes, I’m not playing much at all also because of this. But I still check on the game because I like KI and probably would come for some fights from time to time =)

Even so, I wish I could have trained more and more with so many good players with a bigger scene like you have in the US.

Lately some more players from my country have tried KI and liked it, and of course I’ll offer my help if they want to play. Because I like them liking the game n_n

PS: Yeap, I’m retired of the competitive game but still would like to fight you again some day =D

PS2: I still like visiting this forums and watching KI streams when I get the chance.

PS3: Hope KI get polished. No more seasons and we get to enjoy what’s left of the final product.

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Oh I already knew your channel. Subscribed since january I guess.

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I don’t get to be a filthy casual anymore?

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No Sir! :joy:

And stop with those sad kittens images, you are all making me cry :cry::cry:

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