@fuzzd0rk itās just generally how one behave that is the problem, negative critisism is fine but if itās not helpful, itās useless, the same with overly positive feelings.
While the people who do not like it are pretty verbal about the Ultimates, I can see thereās a bit more likes than dislikes, so if anything itās more or less even, but even so, just because a majority doesnāt like it still makes it an opinion. You just happen to be on the side that doesnāt like it. And that is perfectly fine, but it isnāt bad that other people like it.
Yeah I hope in the next game, assumingwe even get one, and the devs are willing to put in Ultimates for the next game (hopefully as a standard and not waiting three years to get them) I hope they will find a way to do it for next time.
This game isnāt perfect but nothing really is anyway. Though I still love it. This is getting close to ebing the āultimateā KI for me, but thatās something Iāll save for later : p
I think the main issue isnāt that you are providing negative criticism. Itās more that the criticism isnāt constructive and everyone has the problem with that part. If it is constructive, negative criticism isnāt really a problem here. Not too sure if that is what is going on though.
I get the constructive part, but letās not split hairs here. Itās no secret that IG is re-using a lot of assets, animations, etc. for the ultimates. It is what it is. However, in at least one instance, I did offer how to improve on one (TJ Combo) by simply spinning the loserās head around on the final blow, and that was instantly shot down. That seems to be constructive to me. I offered an idea that makes the ultimate more brutal without gore, requires no new assets, and no new motion capture. Yet, that still isnāt good enough. People keep telling me Iām being too abrasive, etc., but thatās all Iāve received from others so far.
Iāve searched through old threads and posts, and Iāve seen a lot of complaints about a mob mentality here when it comes to criticizing the game. From my own experience here the last few days, I have to agree with them. Even a mod told me to stop telling people their opinions are wrong, when I never even did anything of the sort.
Regardless, people need to drop it already, or else weāre all going to start getting flagged for going off topic.
So far, your among those who never called out anyone for disagreeing with you. But if you want to show them you are being constructive with your negative criticism, I have a suggestion. Try telling the devs how they can improve the ultimates. This can help the negative criticism become constructive which is what the devs will listen to as well.
As far as the majority, I think that plenty of that could be due to nostalgia. Alot of people may have been hoping for a remake of the old ultimates.
I would say nostalgia definitely does play a part. The original KI games were dark. This reboot is somewhat cartoonish. However, from what Iāve seen so far, the off-screen censoring seems to be whatās bugging people the most.
Thereās so much more IG could be doing with the ultimates to push that teen rating while avoiding the creation of new assets, motion capture, etc. I wish they would explain why theyāve decided to take such a reserved stance with them. I donāt understand this whole ambiguous approach.
Wellā¦the orignal KI games did have their comedic moments. I donāt think Riptorās ultimate in the old K should have a crtoon belly bulge. There shouldāve been some torn flesh from the victim.
Then there is humiliations.
Orchid flash attack which gets funny reactions from the cast
TJās screen punch
Thuderās upper cut
These are alle examples of funny moments in KI-1. There is also a few
As for your second point, you could give IG a few suggestions on how they can achieve what your looking for, without becoming the M-rating. Heck! you can give a suggestion on how to improve the the current ultimates.
When you take into account the graphic capabilities of the time, yes, you can see the original KI was meant to be a dark, violent game. Sure they threw in a few humorous things, which Iām sure was due to the ESRB thing MK caused. As I mentioned before, over 85% of the no mercies show a clear, non-ambiguous, non-humorous kill on-screen. Besides for the few shown a few posts above, I never questioned whether or not the loser was killed in any of the no mercies.
As far as the overall style of the new KI, yes it looks cartoonish to me. I wish the characters were slightly more realistic looking.
How the hell can you say the game wasnāt meant to be humorous when Orchid flashing her ā ā ā ā is an ultimate? TJ punching a guy at the screen? Maya shrinking someone? You donāt make that stuff in an intentionally dark game. And donāt argue with me that MK has Babalities and Humiliations and stuff, because those games had a clearly cheesy undertone too.
I cannot imagine anyone crying or getting scared when playing the original KI. Iād think itās more likely theyāre laughing at the voice lines or ultimates, or banging their heads to the upbeat music.