These comments are going to be the reason we only get 15 ultimates, mark my words.
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Exactly. A fighting game that has cyber dinosaurs, and alien that can use Ice, a sorcerer, a reseless skeleton, a werewolf, to anme a few.
I have to agree. If they just made it an M-rating half of the finishers wouldâve involved severing limbs. They chose to go with the T-rating, This still allows them to be more creative with the ultimates,
But with that said, that doesnât mean Netherrealm never had some creative finishers, but even in MKX half of the rosterâs finishers involved dismemberment. .
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This.
And I donât mind paying for Quality.
Donât resist⊠Once you go Spider, you wonât go back.
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After reading the responses up to this point, i kinda understand the animation gripes. However, for me, if a character i play in this game gets one, i just choose to suspend belief for about 10 seconds while a Ultimate is playing. Aint nobody got time to analyze every Ultimate.
Matter of fact, between Shin Hisako and the first set of Ultimates? With all this animation and censorship harping? This is the last time im probably entering a conversation that sways to animation criticism and rating discussion. Peace.
i would resist if i was you, anyway you got 80% more chance to make ultimate with yo riptor than using sadira and trying lol lol.
good luck tryin to win with supreme victory with her.
the only peoples you will be able to do it on them are the buttons mashers and some free qualifier.
to get a ultimate is something , but been able to do it its something else with her.
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THIS. This entire comment, from start to finish. Well done, and couldnât agree more.
I donât need to see the webs that are allowing her to do what sheâs doing. I can suspend disbelief, just I can suspend disbelief where it comes to a ghost getting her throat slashed, or being hit by anything in general.
Câmon people, these are supposed to be fun, cool looking match enders. I think this one has some great style, and as a Sadira main, I couldnât be happier.
If itâs not your cup of tea, thatâs fine, but picking apart angles and probability and what not? Allowing one second to detract from any enjoyment youâd get from this or even ruin it to any extent? I think youâre just kinda short changing yourself.
I really hope youâre wrong, but I definitely get where youâre coming from here. I think thereâs a lot of positive feedback on Sadiraâs ultimate, just as there has been for most of them (well, except for TJâs, though Iâm really starting to think that his ultimate fits his character, and since thatâs what they seem to be going for, itâs definitely growing on me).
Iâm hoping that theyâll keep going with these and finish the entire cast, as Iâve enjoyed what weâve seen so far. As someone that didnât really care about ultimates before, I find myself using these a lot with the characters that have them so far. Theyâre fun, and theyâre not getting old yet, so hereâs hoping we get as many as they can give us. 
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I wish I could give multiple likes.
I hate Sadira. But her ultimate is awesome. No matter how much people who clearly have too little to do want to start agonizing over the order of events and whether it would be more impactful with jets of blood. You can nitpick everything in the universe if you choose to. Or you can look at it, recognize that in the context of KI, this ultimate is awesome and just choose to enjoy it.
This is a game where a boxer fights a dinosaur (and wins!) and people are hung up on how Sadira got to the ceiling when her whole fighting style is CONSTANTLY JUMPING⊠sigh.
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If orchid ever gets one, I hope they center on not necessarily trying to animate her in awkward situations
But CENTER on the firecat.
Just have the camera pan around the beast running and flames 
ignite and rush past the opponent finishing in a blaze of light similar to KI Gold.
No need for trying to rig her awkward in-game model
Iâm sure glad sheâs not part of this 15.
Itâs not about disbelief. The ultimate is supposed to show the viewer exactly whatâs going on. Itâs called staging. You arenât supposed to just come up with your own assumptions, on how she probably didnât, when the animation doesnât indicate it, itself. From what was shown, it doesnât make sense. if she jumped earlier off screen, then you show that. If she spun a quick hammock web for her to land on, then you show that.The cinematography is very flawed, and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out from my view.
Why not? Why canât parts of it be open to interpretation and still be good staging? We know that she slashes Shin Hisakoâs throat even though we donât see it, just as we know that she uses webs to come down from above at that angle. Why do we need to see everything? Whatâs the advantage from a stylistic perspective?
I disagree, but if thatâs what you think, then thatâs fine. No problem. I just think that some things can be open to interpretation in the name of creating a cool looking moment. I mean⊠Did we need to see the alien the entire time during the movie âAlienâ or was it cooler to hear sounds and have false jump scares and what not?
I only bring it up because style doesnât HAVE to involve showing everything. In some cases, itâs better, or creates a cooler moment when you donât show something, whether itâs some sort of logistical part (like the Akuma super example above and how much cooler it is with the lights off on the screen) or the violence part, where weâre left to our imaginations (like the throat slash in this move).
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And it did. It showed and focused on the important bits. The caress and the throat slash. Any thing else isnât as important (and kinda obvious) and doesnât need to waste extra animation showing
It does, though. We know how Sadira likes to move around and itâs really not that hard to imagine what happened off-screen for a few seconds given the cues. Ultimates are supposed to be quick and itâs not going to show every step for how a creepy spider-assassin traps and kills her prey.
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Explain TJâs classic neck snap ultimate, then.
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No, thatâs what YOU expect it to be.
The Ultimate is a special ender, where the winner performs a cinematic ender in his/her opponent
Thatâs what Ultimates are. Everything else is up of your mind.
If you expected 1 single shot with no camera cuts, itâs up to you
If you expected a non cinematic ender like the original ones, with the same camera, itâs up to you
If you expected fatalities, itâs up to you
If you expected an episode of My little pony, itâs up to you
They are NOT fatalities, they are NOT advertised as, and I quote:
They NEVER said that Ultimates are this, so you being dissapointed of being as they are is up to YOUR expectations, not a deceive from anyone.
You have all your right to not like them. But nobody deceived us. Nobody promised gore, real time uncut animations 100% of the time, or whatever people are making up in their minds
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Just another note this⊠You seem to equate showing everything with staging or possibly good cinematography as well. But here are a few more examples on why sometimes itâs better to abandon the logistics of something and suspend disbelief in favor of a cool, cinematic moment:
In âV For Vendettaâ we see a montage toward the end where V knocks over a single domino, which starts TONS of other dominos to fall. There are other scenes incorporated in to this cinematic moment, and the dominos are clearly there to represent the events being put in motion, playing out one after another, which lead to a crescendo.
Would it have been better staged, or would the cinematography have been helped if weâd watched V set up each of those dominos, one after another? How did he even get the dominos? Do we really need to see him do any of this, and would seeing this do more harm than good as it pertains to this scene?
Same goes for âThe Crow,â where Brandon Lee lights the visage of the crow on fire on by the pier where he just sent someone careening to their death? The musicâs going, the scene looks cool as hell. Would it have helped the staging or the cinematography if we saw Eric at the store, buying the lighter fluid and spraying it around on the blacktop in the shape of a crow?
Or is it better to just suspend disbelief and not worry about the logistics of where the lighter fluid came from, when he wouldâve sprayed it on the ground and instead just revel in the cool scene? Why would they want to show everything? Why would that improve anything in either of these scenes?
As for Sadira, maybe they thought that having webs coming from her would make the scene look too busy. Maybe they didnât see the advantage of showing everything, so maybe they sacrificed a few angles in the name of showing what they wanted to show. Why is that a bad thing and how does it ruin anything in her ultimate? If anything, I think what theyâre showing looks great. I can add the rest of it myself, not that I really need to.
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When did I ever mention gore, or fatalities? Yes there are times when somethings, are cool for interpretation, but this is all wrong, in my opinion. Did you guys see cat-womanâs trailer yesterday? You can see exactly what is going on in her super. Now what if they never showed her lassle her opponent, then all of a sudden she is being dragged. Would you say Oh they arenât supposed to show everything. A good example of leaving something for interpretation would be Akumaâs Ultimate. Itâs structured in a way where you arenât supposed to know what is going on. Showing what is going on, doesnât have to be some overly drawn out process. It could have been shown how she got down, while also showing Hisako struggle in the same scene. You can always say, well âof course, or common sense should tell youâ, but in the end, it makes for a better showcase if you donât leave things like that, off camera. Another example is Jagoâs. He launches his opponent upwards. Then all of a sudden, Jago is in the sky with him. Of course Jago jumped up, but it would make for a better showcase, if they showed jago maybe run, or get some sort of momentum to jump before hand. This all comes down to preference.
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Ah man, not cool. That will ruin the mood.
This is a extremely bad choice example
Where was that motocycle? How is that Catwoman is out of the screen for 0.5 secs and she is fullspeed with it? Was it on and running in that moment?
I donât see her turning around the bike, when did it happened? Why I canât see an amazing 180ÂȘ from her?
See? Catwoman super is fine, and it didnât show me EVERYTHING. Some holes are there for me, so I can fill them!
Same goes with Ultimates
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