Ultimates are coming!

[BlueTEEstyleA27]

They should bring Hisako and her dad together for her ultimate. I would def love that

[JEFFRON27]

@fuzzd0rk

@C88GLITCHEZ

I think he’s asking for more creativity…not necessarily gore

Obviously nobody reads thoroughly. And you’re correct. I want the ultimates to be more creative and brutal, not gory.

Well you need to be more clear cause all it sounded like was more visible/explicit/more hardcore death. Why don’t you make suggestions for the next set of Ultimates and maybe while you’re at it, give us YOUR idea how you’d of liked these current Ultimates to go?

[BigBadAndy]

@fuzzd0rk

brutal, not gory.

You’re spending a lot of time parsing words and accusing people of not reading. But here is what you have directly asked for in this thread:

@fuzzd0rk

They could’ve had the loser’s neck snap all the way backwards on the final blow, implying their neck was brutally broken

@fuzzd0rk

Maya’s in particular, the final blow takes place off-screen.

Hard to read this and not get the impression you want to see knives going into peoples eyeballs… but just in case it was unclear:

@fuzzd0rk

The loser’s face hitting the blades is off-screen. Lame. MKvsDCU anyone

Making it abundantly clear and also citing the game you later claim is a good example as something lame that KI is already paired with.

@fuzzd0rk

Oh boy, some sword slashes and a giant fireball…yawn. And the losers are on fire but don’t even looked charred.

@fuzzd0rk

Oh boy, he stomps on the loser with some lightning. You don’t even get to see if the loser is burning and charred

Regarding Tusk

@fuzzd0rk

This is actually the only one that passes as a decent kill move, but it’s still off-screen. Again, lame.

You can dance around saying “oh that’s not what I meant” but what you are clearly asking for is more gore. Just stop. You’re in a cycle of inconsistent arguing with everyone and slowly talking yourself further and further into irrelevance by being obstinate. You want more gore. It doesn’t matter what synonym you use. You don’t want “charred bodies” meaning cartoonish burnt bodies. You want burned skeletons like that scene in Star Wars no one ever talks about. That’s fine. But don’t act like anyone suggesting you want gore isn’t paying attention. That’s ridiculous.

[DiagonalSpy07]

@fuzzd0rk

Obviously nobody reads thoroughly. And you’re correct. I want the ultimates to be more creative and brutal, not gory.

No sarcasm intended but I’m curious to know just what is your vision of how the current ultimates and future ones should have been then? Maybe in another thread perhaps. Examples are appreciated.

[SkullBangaXB]

And that’s the dumbest example yet imo

MKvDC shouldn’t have been brought up. KOF has better brutal (non-gory) finishers.

[justathereptile]

@Dayv0

Fact: developers want this level of violenceFact: they could go a bit further with gory content without loosing T ratingFact: they don’t want to do that, otherwise it would be done

A) My opinion (which some may share): the game looks great this way, and I don’t want more gory content B) Other people opinion: they prefer more gory content

Conclusion: make peace with facts and accept being A) if you aren’t already, because B) people will never get what they want.

This game aims for a lot of people, not just a concrete group with concrete preferences

Sometimes you just deal with it

And I’m fine with that

Edit: substitute "gore"for “more violent” or “more explicit” if you prefer. The point remai

Good points there @Dayv0

@Infilament
Considering that the body is off screen when shago lays the final cut down, we should’ve seen it comming.

[VladKravich]

Can characters be impaled during ultimates without it being gory? I think they can, just look at fulgore’s grab.

[justathereptile]

oemto think of it the death wasn’t shown because Shago likely severed their head.

[DiagonalSpy07]

You say that but at the same time, they had to remove the blade tip during Hisako’s command grab because it would break the rating.

[VladKravich]

@justathereptile

oemto think of it the death wasn’t shown because Shago likely severed their head.

I see it more like a super attack from SC5 (maybe 4) where characters get swords through them but without any mutilation happening.

@DiagonalSpy07

You say that but at the same time, they had to remove the blade tip during Hisako’s command grab because it would break the rating.

Interesting. I don’t understand why it would break the rating even though there is no visible hole, no guts spilling out?

[Hayabusaslice]

I personally don’t care if its violent.we already have a game that does that. I use to think it was budget restraints, cause that is the excuse people would use for everything. I now feel that it has to do more with talent. I believe in the right hands, more could be done, even using existing animations. Would be cool if there was a spectator mode, where players could zoon and rotate the camera like DOA4. I bet some of you could piece together some really cool stuff.

[DiagonalSpy07]

@VladKravich

Interesting. I don’t understand why it would break the rating even though there is no visible hole, no guts spilling out?

[fuzzd0rk]

@BigBadAndy

You can dance around saying “oh that’s not what I meant” but what you are clearly asking for is more gore. Just stop. You’re in a cycle of inconsistent arguing with everyone and slowly talking yourself further and further into irrelevance by being obstinate. You want more gore. It doesn’t matter what synonym you use. You don’t want “charred bodies” meaning cartoonish burnt bodies. You want burned skeletons like that scene in Star Wars no one ever talks about. That’s fine. But don’t act like anyone suggesting you want gore isn’t paying attention. That’s ridiculous.

Seeing Tusk’s sword go through his opponent isn’t gore. Seeing their guts falling out after would be a different story. I never said I wanted MKX level gore, but I still want the ultimates to be brutal. That’s why I used MKvsDCU as an example. Losers are killed, but the violence is tame - no copious amounts of blood and gore. So far, two of the new ultimates are questionable whether the loser actually dies - Combo and Thunder.

[fuzzd0rk]

@VladKravich

Can characters be impaled during ultimates without it being gory? I think they can, just look at fulgore’s grab.

Exactly

[fuzzd0rk]

@DiagonalSpy07

No sarcasm intended but I’m curious to know just what is your vision of how the current ultimates and future ones should have been then? Maybe in another thread perhaps. Examples are appreciated.

Some simple tweaks would make them so much better.

Jago - while it does show the loser on fire, they should look charred.

Thunder - show the loser charred on the ground after the lightning stomp.

Maya - other than showing the final blow, I don’t know how to improve this one.

Combo - improve sound effects to imply bones breaking, or have the loser’s head snap backwards, or just recreate his classic screen smash.

Tusk - show the sword impalement.

[GalacticGeek]

Again, why do you need confirmation of death? Maybe they’re not killers - did you ever stop to think about that? I mean come on, they’re the good guys, and not all good guys kill.

[fuzzd0rk]

@GalacticGeek

Again, why do you need confirmation of death? [/quote]
Because video games are a visual medium. I want to see what happens. I don’t want to imagine what happens.

[quote=“GalacticGeek, post:497, topic:18389, full:true”]Maybe they’re not killers - did you ever stop to think about that? I mean come on, they’re the good guys, and not all good guys kill.

The word “killer” is literally in the title. No I never questioned whether or not they would kill someone.

[Sasuke99I]

@fuzzd0rk

Because video games are a visual medium. I want to see what happens.

You do but others don’t. Personally, I don’t want that. The devs don’t either. If they wanted to show it, they would’ve. They didn’t though. Ever heard of a decision called implied death?

[mynicknameisout]

I actually like the idea of off-screen implied deaths. These ultimates are a great test run for the concept. Maya’s ultimate is my favorite by far, and there’s a real art to not seeing characterse die, but having the gory details left to the imagination. In that respect, I think it would be cool if the developers drew some inspiration from horror film directors on managing effective, bone-chilling off screen deaths to make them more visceral without changing the general concept.

[JEFFRON27]

@BigBadAndy

@fuzzd0rk

brutal, not gory.

You’re spending a lot of time parsing words and accusing people of not reading. But here is what you have directly asked for in this thread:

@fuzzd0rk

They could’ve had the loser’s neck snap all the way backwards on the final blow, implying their neck was brutally broken

@fuzzd0rk

Maya’s in particular, the final blow takes place off-screen.

Hard to read this and not get the impression you want to see knives going into peoples eyeballs… but just in case it was unclear:

@fuzzd0rk

The loser’s face hitting the blades is off-screen. Lame. MKvsDCU anyone

Making it abundantly clear and also citing the game you later claim is a good example as something lame that KI is already paired with.

@fuzzd0rk

Oh boy, some sword slashes and a giant fireball…yawn. And the losers are on fire but don’t even looked charred.

@fuzzd0rk

Oh boy, he stomps on the loser with some lightning. You don’t even get to see if the loser is burning and charred

Regarding Tusk

@fuzzd0rk

This is actually the only one that passes as a decent kill move, but it’s still off-screen. Again, lame.

You can dance around saying “oh that’s not what I meant” but what you are clearly asking for is more gore. Just stop. You’re in a cycle of inconsistent arguing with everyone and slowly talking yourself further and further into irrelevance by being obstinate. You want more gore. It doesn’t matter what synonym you use. You don’t want “charred bodies” meaning cartoonish burnt bodies. You want burned skeletons like that scene in Star Wars no one ever talks about. That’s fine. But don’t act like anyone suggesting you want gore isn’t paying attention. That’s ridiculous.

Pretty much the vibe I was getting here : )

@mynicknameisout

I actually like the idea of off-screen implied deaths. These ultimates are a great test run for the concept. Maya’s ultimate is my favorite by far, and there’s a real art to not seeing characterse die, but having the gory details left to the imagination. In that respect, I think it would be cool if the developers drew some inspiration from horror film directors on managing effective, bone-chilling off screen deaths to make them more visceral without changing the general concept.

I can agree and while I do enjoy blood and gore, KI has soo many more good things about it that we don’t need to see someone getting gutted and have their organs pulled out to be a good death scene.

All things considerd if this is one way they can make it happen, I say go for it.