Yeah, I’m sorry, nothing will ever be lamer than that.
I’ve played that game so I know that’s the worst one.
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Yep, you’re right. One example of a ■■■■■■ finisher totally invalidates my opinion that most finishers in MKvsDCU are better than the five ultimates we’ve seen so far.
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No, but it also proves that you shouldn’t invalidate the entire concept simply based upon what we’ve seen thus far.
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I never said I didn’t like MKvsDCU. My point in that NRS was way more creative in working around the confines of the teen rating. One of the new ultimates so far is literally just punches. All the characters do that already in the matches!
And sorry, but Ultimates are a killing finisher. In the original KI, an ultimate invoked no mercy at the end of a combo. In KI2, they were killing moves, as well.
Hey, I mean, you ever survived getting two daggers through your head?
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Well, what did you expect? He doesn’t use weapons like other characters do - that’s what makes him such a BA! After all, he’s not going to pull a bazooka out of his butt or anything - that would be stupid and not relatable to him as a character concept.
I never said the characters don’t die in the ultimates. My point is that they’re lame and not creative. Maya’s in particular, the final blow takes place off-screen.
Yeah, so? It still makes people flinch or gasp when they fill in the gaps - and without having to be traumatized in the process.
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Sorry, I actually read your post wrong. Oops.
They could’ve had the loser’s neck snap all the way backwards on the final blow, implying their neck was brutally broken, or remade the classic screen smash. Either would’ve been 100% better.
Really? Traumatized? Let’s not get over dramatic.
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I mean, the fact that not only can TJ murder you with just a few punches, but he also knows that those punches alone were enough to kill you…I see that as badass so I’m fine with his ultimate.
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You already are (over dramatic).
I don’t know about the neck snapping all the way backwards like you suggested but I think some sound tweaks to imply broken bones or solid punches could work wonders for that ultimate in particular.
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Thank you. That’s what I’m driving at. Some more visual or audio cues could work wonders for what’s been revealed so far.
I’m all for appropriate sounds, but I don’t think neck snapping would work - Aganos doesn’t really have 1.
Then tweak the ultimate for certain characters. Hell, even Thrill Kill back in 1999 did this if a finisher wouldn’t work correctly with a specific character’s design.
I think it’d be pretty cool if the golem’s whole face was just knocked off… After all, it’s just a giant metal plate.
Well no, that’s just the definition. You can argue that people use it now for a broader description, but that doesn’t make the use of the term correct. If there are guidelines for what’s acceptable within the ESRB ratings system, how is adhering to those guidelines an example of the ravages of PC culture?
If you want to argue that the ESRB is the result of people being offended by violence or mature themes, I can absolutely see your point there. But again, political correctness, or the extreme example of it, is bending over backwards not to offend someone by disenfranchising them. It’s not just offending someone in general. There’s a substantial difference.
Again, that’s what the ESRB is forcing them to do. They have the guidelines and MS / IG has to adhere to them or else the rating changes from a T to an M and they don’t want that. That’s why Ultimates are tamer than your average MK fatality. It has nothing to do with not wanting to offend people with violence and everything to do with not wanting a specific ESRB rating.
That’s absolutely political correctness, because they didn’t want a caricature of a Native American or something that might overtly objectify women. Again, both of those are disenfranchising. Do you see the difference between that and how violence might offend someone? Not trying to be obstinate or rhetorical here.
Okay, but again, the only people they’re concerned with “offending” are the people at the ESRB and it’s not a matter of offending them. No one at the ESRB is screaming bloody murder or fainting or whatever.
It’s a matter of giving them content that fits within the T rating. I don’t think they’d be “offended” by gory ultimates in the sense you’re talking about. I’m sure they’d just say “okay, depictions of lifelike violence and gore… That’s an M rated game now.” It’s just a guideline to determine what’s appropriate for players of certain ages. Being offended doesn’t have anything to do with that.
Well, your interpretation of the term is certainly your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But from a factual standpoint, your perception of what political correctness is incongruent with the actual definition from an objective, factual standpoint.
You can argue colloquial “offense” and “this is how people use the term now” in a broader sense, but saying that doesn’t make it correct when the context of who’d be offended here is entirely irrelevant given that the ESRB had guidelines and MS / IG want to adhere to them. It has zero to do with not wanting to offend the public with violence, even if that were the correct use of the term, which again, going off of the definition, it’s not.
Apologies if I come off like I’m nagging here. But the whole anti-PC thing… I just think PC / anti-PC culture in general is overblown by the media (as many things tend to be) in order to get people angry and worried that their being forced to give something up (their tolerance, their ability to coexist, their free speech, etc), so when I see people extending that sentiment in to other areas that aren’t even germane by definition, it makes me a tad uneasy. 
No worries though!
I’ll honestly be shocked if we don’t get at least one nonsensical ultimate. I don’t know what it’ll be, but I could’ve sworn that either Adam Isgreen or someone else said that there would be some humor in one of them. Maybe I’m mistaken though?
Why? Who cares? He had smoke and flames coming off of him, didn’t he? Why would having some char on him make the move more satisfying?
Yeah that’s kinda what I thought too. I see people saying her neck broke, but it kinda just looks like her whole body goes limp, including her neck. Had there been a cracking sound her head froze to the side, that might’ve been a better indicator.
Again though, why? How is seeing some char marks on someone so much better? Personally, I’d rather they leave it up to the imagination in some cases since, to me at least, that would be a lot better than what they can show in a T rated game to begin with.
Fair enough. I wouldn’t mind seeing a bit more brutality that they can fit under the T rating. I don’t necessarily need it though, as I personally prefer something look cool and stylish as opposed to having some sort of “whoa” gross out factor, but that’s just me.
Yeah, pretty much this.
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What new assets need to be created to make a character look charred? You simply darken the textures to create the effect. Easy!