Lol. Just curious - what did you think was happening all those times you were holding back and got tagged by shatter? 
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That I needed to crouch block and I wasnt getting to crouch block fast enough lol
I very rarely fight any online Glaciusā's and the computer never really used it like a human would.
But Im really good at breaking his shatter combos because i know the direction as to it pushes you per strength.
But I know now!
KOEmawk
Fwufikins:
Good Shagos never stop moving. Keep surging, keep mixing up, doing crazy stuff.
The hyperactive child every parent prays forā¦
Thatās how I play Shagoā¦never let 'em know where youāre coming from. Also: long-range fireball barrage followed up with heavy slide kick into a comboā¦always love catching people with that.
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Thatās a funny vid haha. But see, thatās what Iām sayinā! So many ways to avoid it or hit Shago out of it
Are you going to sit there and tell me Jago is a better overall zoner than Shago? Jago in instinct might have a slight advantage at best.
Rico beat Sleep at the World Cup with his fireball play.
Yes, but itās fast and could be made ambiguous.
Shago in a nutshell: Frustrate you with a million fireballs until you let your guard down, the go in with a slide or a teleport dive kick.
Rinse and repeat.
Not necessarily; Iāve been frustrated by non-fireballing Shagos as well that almost exclusively do slide and/divekick, mixing them up with shadow and surge, making them that much harder to block, counter, and predict in general (especially with the divekicks - I canāt even tell where those are going to go when Iām playing as Shago). In most cases, I just hope I block correctly and can react fast enough to punish, if thereās an opening. The problem however, is if they shadow or surge, it often makes the move safe, so Iām left with the option of releasing the block and potentially getting punished if they use shadow/surge or holding said block down too long and losing out on reaction times in order to counter. If I fail at this, I get locked out with a timing lockout and eat a whole lot of damage of 40% or more easy.
Jago isnāt a credible zoner at all currently, youāre right about that. But boss Shago doesnāt have to wait for instinct to get those tasty double-endokukens, and I think those would be at least as oppressive as IG Shagoās fireball pressure. (But probably worse: the HP ones travel about as fast as Shagoās, and you only need one to hit or get blocked to throw the next one. Oh, and theyāre really good in pressure. Theyāre disgusting, really.)
Shago is just a bunch of unreactable 50-50 BS.
In 1 block string he can do this:
Surge Divekick, a SAFE 50-50 guess move,
then he can go over head or low. over head is not safe, but thats why most people go low LK, either way, the only way to find out which one they will go for is to eat a combo first.
Then they can cancel into overhead, a low slide (could be surged), or throw, A 33-33-33 unreactable guess.
I get the idea of trying to incorporate more mindgames by making characters with unsafe 50-50s, BUT ITS GETTING RIDICULOUS. ITS JUST BECOMING A HUGE GUESSING GAME! SHAGO HAS LIKE TEN MOVES THAT MAKE YOU TAKE A WILD GUESS.
#I WANT TO PLAY KILLER INSTINCT, NOT SIMON SAYS!
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LMAO!
Shago is so spammable because heās so hard to react to.
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This is becoming another self reinforcing rant. People are (as usual) making it sound like you get a free win by picking Shago and heās just impossible to deal with. How about everyone goes online to play as Shago and then come back here to post about why you lose?
Shago has great tools, but he has some pretty apparent weaknesses too - including pretty low damage overall. Yes, he has good mix ups but many of them are punishable on block and a lot of them lead to reduced length āgolden pathā combos or short juggles instead of the big damage combos that other characters get for opening you up.
People get all hot and bothered and itās always the same āI beat Shagos all the time, but really Shago is Unbeatable.ā Ok, whatever you say. Shago is a character that makes you change your game plan. You need to fight him and not just soldier through the same way you would approach half the characters in the game.
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I agree Andyā¦
Anybody who thinks that Shago is OP really just needs to learn the match upā¦
Hereās a vid I did fighting a Hisako and Shago. Not that hard really.
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One thing Iāve noticed that you can consider a weakness is he doesnāt have a lot of options when he gets pinned down, most of his moves have a slow start-up, so if he gets pinned down itās hard to get out & back on top of your opponent. I mean yeah, he has his DP, but it goes straight up, & unless your opponent is right over the top of you itās useless & punishable.
Noting with Shago is punishable unless you make a HARD read.
If you bait a DP and try to punish, he can surge it and still hit you.
If you bait a DP and predict the surge, then if he chooses NOT to surge it, you give him a free way out.
That player failed every counter breaker, shadow counter, and most combo breakers. That was a bad player, and nothing to be proud of.
Also, Sadira is just ANOTHER character that can play the āannoyingā game and put you in some unreactable 50-50s. (not NEAR as bad as Shago, though.) So it was just as hard for HIM to fight YOU as it is for others to fight Shago.
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Shago would be fine if he didnt also have AMAZING fundamentals to go with his gimmicks.
If he was only a teleport character, he would be fine,
but he also has:
THE BEST Jumping HP in the game.
A grounded Overhead that can start combos on airborne opponents.
An above average throw that can lead to full combos.
A low-profiling slide that avoids projectiles FREE of meter.
If he had Omenās Slide and throwbox, with Jagoās regular Jumping HP, He would be PERFECT.
But currently he excels in ANYTHING he tries to do.
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I can agree with he needs Jagos Jumping HP and Omens slide. I find it a bit unfair that his slide has so much more distance and low profile than Omens. And his jumping HP is just too muchā¦you can literally wins matches just by primarily using that move.
I know when i use Shago those are my 2 main moves lol
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Kudos for making some suggestions as to how Shago might actually be changed. I will respectfully disagree about one: Shago does not have the best jumping HP in the game. That thing is slow as ā ā ā ā . Itās so slow it makes me feel like Iām playing with MKX net code. If you want to go up and oppose him in the air you WILL win. If you want to use that move you have to commit to it very early. I think some other j.HP moves, including vanilla Jagoās, are actually better because they have decent cross up potential and much better utility against opponents in the air and they are much faster to come out.
Itās hard for a lot of people to fight me, when Iām using Sadira. While Iām not nearly the best Sadira out there, Iām incredibly solid. My video wasnāt to prove how badass I am, but the fact that you can punish Shago (easily). He is vulnerable after a blocked slide. Heās vulnerable when he does his stagger attack. His fire balls can easily be avoided all together or blocked.
I hardly ever lose against a Shago anymore, and the ones that I do lose to or have close games with, are amazing players no matter the character.
I agree his Pizza Cutter is annoying, HOWEVER, if you block it, he is vulnerable as soon as he lands. Time things just right, and you can punish. I found this out when playing a few sets with a Shago player. Iām almost able to punish them every time now. Heās also relatively easy to break, when not using his Surge.
Almost everything he does, if blocked leads to a punish. He doesnāt have relatively any safe moves on him. This is why he has to overwhelm somebody to overcome what he lacks.
I had a TON of issues with him at first, but now I donāt hardly have any problems. Glacius on the other handā¦ stupid HK ice lanceā¦ 
You can not punish on a blocked JHPā¦Shago can land and immediately throw you out of your āpunishāā¦light poke, what ever you try.
Fight XStantheManXās Shago shadow and you will see lol
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You can actually. Right after his Pizza cutter animation ends, heās vulnerable. You can do a light jab just as heās landing. As he is landing, he canāt throw you. Iāll try to run some sets later on.
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