The Atari thing is complicated. Basically, anything they made for the Arcades got absorbed into Midway when they bought it along with Bally, as evidenced by the “Midway Arcade” section of Lego Dimensions also holding a large number of Bally and Atari games. This property was featured in that game because WB owned the old trademarks and ROMs so it would be easy to include. Not to mention that several of the “Midway Arcade Collections” released for consoles actually featured Primal Rage. Any games made for home consoles it currently owned by the company that still calls itself Atari today.
Long story short, WB definitely owns Primal Rage and NRS has free reign to seize the property and work on it as long as they both A) Want to and B) Get approved by WB.
Well, I don’t think he was ever technically confirmed, but I also think the whole “the deal fell through” thing is just a rumor as well. Some seem to think that’s why we got Joker instead; that he was a last minute replacement. I kinda doubt that, but who knows.
I dunno… Maybe? I’m not entirely sure why they would be. I get that it’s a part of Scorpion’s character, but I kinda feel like they could do a new take on him while retaining a the spear, the teleport, maybe even the fire, without people tearing their hair over him not being a hellspawn. Who knows though. People have raged about FAR less lol.
That could work. Maybe you have a new hellspawn ninja that has some of what Scorpion can do, and this ninja winds up founding the Shirai Ryu and we find out the clan is somehow cursed or something along those lines, and it was Scorpion’s destiny to become what he became? I dunno, could add a few layers to Scorpion’s story.
Yeah, Terminator as well, for sure. As for Joker, I didn’t love the reveal, but I’m hoping that was more of an early concept like D’vorah’s initial reveal and that we get something a bit cooler looking when he arrives. I mean, his face kinda looked… fat? Kind of? Just a little off, and the overall style seemed a bit odd, but either way, I think he’ll make a fun addition.
At this point, given how old even the 3D era games are, part of me just wishes they’d release a collection of all of the MK games. Maybe they finally getting around to doing that MK1 remake or reskin or whatever you want to call it… MK1 with crisper graphics… Whatever. And they include that with MK2, UMK3, Trilogy, MK Gold, MK:DA, MK:D, Shaolin Monks and MK:A. Heck, they can even throw Mythologies and Special Forces in there if they want. I’d probably pay full price for a package that included all of that.
Interesting. Wonder if WB then owns Mace: The Dark Age as well. I believe that was a joint project by Midway and Atari. I know it’ll never happen, but I’d love to see NRS take up that title and make it their 3D fighting series.
(I couldn’t find the actual post I’m quoting, so sorry if this causes issues)
Actually there have been a number of people who like Terminator, for example I remember Max admitted on one of his videos that Terminator is the reason he came back to MK11 at all. Even I have Terminator as a side character, since I felt this engine handled the gameplay better than Jason in MKX (who I never really cared for). But no one can deny that they just took a bunch of Jason’s moves and smashed them together to make Terminator in the first place, but I guess for people who wanted that playstyle in MK11 now they have it.
I’m also honestly interested for Joker, since it shows how far WB has come since the old days; we went from WB having the US version of MKvDC censored to not show Joker and Deathstroke shooting people in their fatalities, to allowing Joker in a proper MK game. And considering DC’s historically protective behavior of their characters (outside of the comics at least), that is a big leap forward.
Also Spawn is Spawn. I just hope Keith David can still do the old voice properly, it’s been too long since the HBO cartoon.
I’ve been hearing people say that this Joker resembles the one from the Gotham TV show. Personally I found it weird that they didn’t use classic Joker, but at the very least we might get proper customization (and unlike Injustice 2 we probably don’t have to grind to level 30 to get it).
I did notice something about MK11 Joker when I reinstalled Injustice 2 this past week, in that unlike Injustice Joker the MK11 version will probably have most of his attacks done with his new cane. Mind you this is only a theory, but with Shao Khan always having his hammer in his hands now I could see Joker being heavily reworked compared to his Injustice counterpart. Honestly I’ll be surprised if he even still has the crowbar, since the cane will probably replace that too.
MK vs DCU 2? Or Injustice vs Mortal a Kombat if push comes to shove (implying an Injustice style of gameplay). I just really want to see these two worlds meet and interact on a grand scale again.
What? I meant Joker can get torn apart outside of the comics, which is a big deal considering how scared DC was to allow that to happen before MK11. I guess I’m the only one who sees Joker being in a game with a hard M-Rating as significant. But I can’t be surprised, most people went nuclear with anger when they found out Joker was getting in at all.
But yeah, I feel Injustice Vs MK should happen, since Injustice has shown how we can get MK characters done right in a T-Rated environment. Just tone down the zoning next time, IJ2 is actually fun when characters aren’t spamming projectiles fullscreen.
You don’t know how badly I want this. I just love crossovers to death.
I do want it to be Injustice in Name and Gameplay only though. I don’t want it to be the Injustice universe specifically. I want DC Universe proper interacting with standard MK Universe proper. Kind of like Marvel vs Capcom where every character from either side is always theoretically accessible.
Crossovers don’t equal good, Street Fighter x Tekken is proof of that (and don’t say you love that game, I never believe anyone who says that).
But knowing NRS, there is a higher chance of Injustice 3 with a Street Fighter guest character (if what recent events and rumors have implied, like how Boon said he wanted a SF character in MK11).
Well. You have to believe it. Because I do like Street Fighter x Tekken. I picked it up long after launch at a heavy discount. And I played through every arcade mode team pairing and I really liked it. And I played it way more than USFIV despite owning both because the former actually has vs cpu mode in single fights. And to this day it’s still where I turn to get my Tekken fix because NO Tekken game has that mode, not even 7.
But whatever. Nothing you say can get me to not want to see the Mortal Kombat and DC Universes collide again. I love crossovers. Plain and simple. I will still acknowledge if I find the game to also be bad. But it’s not the fact that it’s a crossover that makes a game bad.
We don’t know that though. Since there are three possible endings, and the canonical one has not been revealed, treating the best ending (Liu Kang and Kitana taking control of the Hour Glass) as the 100% correct and canonical one is an assumption, not fact.
The games released on GoG are the older PC ports, not the Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection. It’s also the base version of Mortal Kombat 3 and not Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. Very different products.
There were other bad mechanics too, like the useless Pandora mode, universal damage on normals (Sakura could hit as hard as Zangief because all heavies did the same damage), and of course the massive Playstation favoritism in the form of 5 exclusive characters.*
*Yes I know they wanted to have Xbox-exclusive content, but it didn’t happen, so I’m counting it anyways.
Oh and of course the fact that one of the early patches introduced game-breaking bugs that were guaranteed to crash the game at one point. Really showed how little Capcom (the publisher) cared for that game. That’s why everyone hoped Tekken X Street Fighter still exists, to show how this crossover could have been.
Also in the same way Capcom didn’t believe in that game, I still can’t believe any of you, because I feel we all deserved better than that game. MvC/CvS it was not.
I never said any of those things. I don’t hate crossovers, I want to see MK and DC cross over again, and I never said that all crossovers are doomed to be bad. But unlike the 90s/early 2000s, people put nowhere near as much effort in full crossover games, and that is a sad fact of the times.
I personally want the old days to come back, when developers didn’t care which characters got put into their games, and questions like “What is Fighting Games?” applied to the gameplay itself, not as a rage statement because Negan got into Tekken 7 or Joker got into MK11.
Whatever, I only recently turned what is considered old, so I guess I can’t talk.
Aw squares, I should have known WB would do something like that. It’s not like they cared for PC games prior to hiring QLOC for their ports (and even then it’s not perfect).
On a side note:
In the last decade I only know of one game that used a bad ending as the basis for a sequel: [spoiler]Warhawk for the PS3, which used the “World War against Kreel that destroys most of humanity” ending from the PS1 game as a base.[/spoiler]
Even at their best NRS was kind of predictable with their stories, but I guess we’ll have to see in whenever they make another MK game.
For Mortal Kombat, the Deadly Alliance won Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, and Shao Kahn wins Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. It happens.
Another game/franchise is XCOM 2.
Regardless, even if the best ending of Mortal Kombat 11 turns out to be the canonical ending, until we know for sure, it’s an assumption, not an actual fact.
I counted. If Mortal Kombat brought everyone back for one game it would be an 88 character roster. Leaving out the guest characters knocks it down a bit. But not by much.
I was referring to a hypothetical “Armageddon 2” if you will. It was an idea I floated earlier that I wanted to see all the characters back. Partly because it would actually force them to go back to certain old concepts and reinvent them to make them cooler. But like I said. That’s 88 characters so no way would it ever happen unless NRS gets 5 years to a decade to work on it.