Is this how we grow our community?

Flame bait?

Move on dude… I have nothing more to tell, i just said everything.

This community never changes… Sometimes i feel great for those guys losing his beloved game little by little (as the situation of ki now) , they don’t belong to be in a forum.

Fanboys are a disgrace.

And now you guys will see that i was right, they will keep his gratuitous offense on me and flag my comment.

I already said.

Or a night-long party if was Evo or Combo breaker.

I don’t understand why people are stressing the quality of the game being to blame for its lack of growth. There’s a mountain of other very important factors ranging from negative treatment by the community, lackluster support and maintenance by Microsoft, the unpopular platforms the game spent the vast majority of its lifetime on, and just the kind of strange beast that KI inherently is.

There’ve been some rough patches and the game has its frustrations and flaws that get to me sometimes, but in general I think KI’s gameplay has only gotten better and better. And currently it’s the best it’s ever been.

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You can make changes, try tons of patches, and nobody buy or play anymore. What’s the point?

I thought developers wants to make their games popular.

Ig did not learned by their mistakes.

Let’s stop this discussion, just see the the situation of the game now.

It’s not a valid argument for failure?
Yes it is, if you disagree, like i said, keep playing online with 10 people or watching tournaments on twitch with 100 viewrs, and games weeb like arcana heart with 2000+.

Yeah, ki is doing pretty well.

I would say KI is doing pretty well. I find matches way faster than I do most other games I play. Not sure what stream numbers have to do with playerbase.

Yeah, “pretty well”.

You’ve made it this far without being banned or otherwise sanctioned, so perhaps a degree of circumspection is warranted with your expectation of such? If you can keep your complaints constructive and civil (calling those who disagree with you “stupid” or “fanboys” is not, for the record), then I’m content to let the conversation continue.

You have the right to express your opinion on the forums, pursuant to the forum TOS. You do not have the right to express it in unrelated topics, nor the right to disparage the developers while doing so. There are actual people behind the game, and they should be treated with respect. It’s fine if you dislike a particular decision made and wish to address it - it is not fine to name-call and apply labels to people you have never met. I will take action the next time it happens.

For all involved in the thread - mod reminder to stay on topic (what is the proper way to grow the community). It’s fine to discuss the larger context of the game and community in the service of that, but no more wild diversions.

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Ki had a few thousand views for frosty and 7000 for kit.

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My goodness, we’re really doing this again.

Honestly, what more can some of us do that we haven’t been doing already to grow this game? In my case, I make youtube vids for things like ranked that not many players (besides Maximilian and maybe a few others I don’t know about) really do, make a few set vids that people like Bass make, and I also make video guides for characters. Problem is, now that I’m back in college, my internet is too unreliable to make ranked/set vids anymore, and when it comes to character guides, those take quite a bit of time to write a script for, especially if I don’t know the character as well. My channel is still relatively small at a little over 600 subs, and while most of them are there because of KI, I don’t want my channel to be so focused on it if I can’t even make those vids. I still have enough fun with the game, but I still have to make vids that I’m worried are over-saturating my channel and require me to go out of my way to do. And my passion for this game is pretty sedated at this point, though honestly I can partly blame the community’s toxicity for that.

I’m still just ■■■■■■ off at how poorly the Steam version was advertised and released. It could’ve been a breath of fresh air for the community and an opportunity to bring new players in. Instead it was released with little but a whisper and didn’t make nearly a splash as it should have. I’ve made multiple ranked vids since its release and I have yet to run into a single Steam player. And i often come across people in stream chats who lament about how the game is only on Xbox.

sigh

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Ey guys, do you realise that all of you are arguing with a person which doesn’t listen to logic and only repeats like a parrot “KI is dead”?

I mean, don’t feed the troll

@masterdericobr you are free to believe whatever you want. I play KI almost everyday, and everyday I find new people, both killer and bronze. Maybe your connection is ■■■■■■ so you can’t join to anyone else.

Not being hot news in the FG community doesn’t mean it’s dead. As long as you can play it against other people without problems, is not dead. It’s in fact truly alive for it’s age.

Enjoy your denial state

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LoL… The Threat of The Ban Hammer made him all quiet. Oh well… lets get back to Business shall we…

No, im here if you want to talk.

And ki is dead, im not troloing, damm look the ki scene.

This community is toxic, and ban me if you wanted, will be a favor.

Community is something I’ve thought about a decent amount, mostly for Killer Instinct, but also for other games and titles as well.

TC’s post was largely about mentality and attitude, and that’s really the crux of the conversation. People play games (and as relevant in this new era of game entertainment, watch games) to have fun. I have watched people stream absolute randomness because the streamer was having fun, not because I liked the game they were playing. Joy is infectious, and I thoroughly enjoyed taking that journey with them even if I cared not a whit about the actual title being played.

At the end of the day, I think that should be the guiding light behind your participation in this or any other community. If you aren’t having fun, then go do something else with your time. Read a book, learn an instrument, go out and meet a pretty girl, etc. If your time interacting with the game and its players doesn’t bring you joy, then find something else that does. Don’t spend your precious free time trying to convince other people to hate something because you don’t like it anymore. That’s just a really, really lame way to spend one’s free time. :confused:

On the subject of actively growing the game/scene, then really, just play it and have fun, and let other people know you are playing and having fun. We’re not doing the KI: Asia stuff (for which I want to stress, 0_rez is doing almost all the heavy lifting in planning/organization) because we expect KI to take over the Singapore FGC - we’re doing it because the game is ■■■■ fun, and there are players here who love it and are excited to show it off to their other FGC friends. We’re doing tournaments and running casual sessions because we’re having a good time. That’s all it’s about; more importantly, that’s all it needs to be about.

I think a big error many KI fans make is they seem to have this compulsive need to be recognized as a “big” game, on the level of competitive Marvel or SF. While I’d love if that were the case, the game itself has never needed that. All it needs is a group of fans who love it enough to travel to events and compete in them, even if those events themselves are small. People who are excited to travel and play Killer Instinct, even if there are only 20 or 30 people there. That’s it. Participate in online tournies if you can’t make the majors, play online and make friends if you can’t make the online events. Just play and love KI.

The absolutely hilarious thing to me is that bulk of the “KI is dead” stuff came at a time when Killer Instinct had year-to-year growth in all of its major tournaments. KI grew each year at Evo, grew each year at CEO, and grew each year at Combo Breaker. Smaller regional events didn’t have good numbers, but then again they never did anyway. But instead of enjoying that growth and success, people decided to proclaim their own scene dead. And for what? To be miserable and shout at a bunch of other people who still like the game? Again - that’s a really, really lame way to spend your free time.

People said KI was dead in Season 1, and then they said it was dead in Season 2. Now it’s Season 3 and the chorus continues? Who gives a ■■■■? Our dead game still made top 8 in early regs for Combo Breaker. Focus on that, register yourself if you can make it, and keep having a great time playing and watching KI when and where you can. That’s all there is to it, and that’s all there’s ever been to it.

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In other words, only tell beautiful things about ki,or leave.

Grow up guys, learn to read negative facts

You heard the man.

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I can leave, but that wont bring ki back to life.

The only way is start from zero with new developers.

Cose this ki we have now is already dead.

What a way to completely get wrong the point of a post in such few words

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The funny thing is: all i said in the past here become reality, and I was insulted.

Keep dreaming, and let the time make my words valid again.

Toxic community.