But he’s not saying that you’re wrong for liking that OR that you’re liking something wrong. He’s saying that he doesn’t like something and he’s stating why.
There’s a difference between disagreeing with someone’s opinion and telling them that they’re wrong for having it. He disagrees with your opinion, but nowhere in any of his posts did he even hint at the idea that you were wrong for having your opinion. If you took it that way, then I think I’m relatively safe in assuming he didn’t mean it that way.
Why not? Why can’t he just say he doesn’t like something. People do that on forums all the time. I get that you want him to offer solutions to his issues with the game, but he’s by no means required to do so, especially when his solutions aren’t at all likely to show up in the game, so what’s the point?
Wow, you’re really reading in to that. He used an example of something that’s appropriate and not appropriate in certain situations. How about this. Yelling “FIRE!” outside of a burning building is appropriate. Yelling “FIRE!” inside a crowded theater where there is no fire is not appropriate. There is no transitive property. I’m not comparing female body parts to fire. That’s all he was saying with his analogy and you took it in a completely different direction that went far beyond his intention.
Alright, I’ll offer my own take then. You don’t have to agree with it or like it, but this is personally how I’d like to see women in DOA depicted:
-Lose the panty shots
-Lose the jiggle physics
-Get rid of the pervy ability to use a camera on posed women
-Stop having adult women sound or act like they’re young girls
-Stop sexualizing teenage girls
Those things to me are just a given at this point. But here are some more:
-Vary women’s body types. Some athletic women have larger breasts, while many are average sized or smaller, some women are relatively flat chested, some women have some muscle on them, calves, hips, broad shoulders, some even have six packs or a slight gut. Instead of having every woman in the game be a size zero with giant breasts, mix it up a little and make them look more realistic instead of like blow up dolls.
-Make women look like their ethnicity / more realistic. Most Asian women aren’t pale white. No women have large, round doe eyes. A vast majority of women have moles, scars, acne, arm hair, birth marks… Some type of texture to their skin.
-As far as clothing, I’d say get rid of all the swimsuits and BDSM gear. Match clothing to the character types. Tina is a wrestler who’s default outfit is bikini top that does an absolute yeoman’s job keeping her massive bosom hidden. How about putting some wrestling gear on her? Athletic boots, knee pads, trunks, some type of flashy spandex design for a top that doesn’t make me think her breasts are in danger of popping out?
Here are some examples.
That’s Kairi Sane and Shayna Baszler, two women from WWE’s NXT promotion. Notice the boots, the knee pads, the elbow pads, the tops that don’t feature giant, heaving bosoms, etc.
That said, there are also plenty of showier outfits that some might find sexier, but aren’t bikinis.
They all have a style to them that reflect their characters, but they also look like they’re actually ready to wrestle in a pro wrestling match. It’s athletic attire that’s also sexy. To me, that’s as far as I’d want to see Tina go in that direction and I think it makes sense for her as a character.
After that though, I think there are options for characters that make sense for who they are, who could still look badass and have some allure to them without being objectifying. You can create a female ninja who’s not dressed like a school girl or a dominatrix. You can show a little skin here and there, just as men show skin, and do it to show off their powerful physiques.
Tell me you wouldn’t feel like a badass using this character:
To be clear, DOA has some options for characters:
This look for Kasumi is light years ahead of her school girl outfits. That’s really all I’m looking for honestly. Just some evolution in character designs. They’re video game characters, so of course they’re going to look good, but give them a bit of realism as well. Some muscle tone, realistic curves, realistic faces, outfits that match their profession.
They can obviously have other outfits and I’m sure some will show varying amounts of skin. I’m not against that. Again, not a prude. I’m against the fetishizing and objectification of women. That’s my vision for a DOA that can be taken more seriously.
I know you won’t like at least some of this and that’s fine. We can obviously disagree. No problem. You seem to think that some of the more fetishized stuff is empowering and I don’t. That’s fine. I think there’s at least some stuff here you might agree with or even like, but we won’t agree on everything.