The Replay and Analysis Thread

I thought about doing this already, actually. My 1st fight against an Eyedol player after our set, and he was a good 1 too, and I took all of the things you guys brought up and put it to work, and destroyed him with a supreme victory. I recorded it because I was proud and was going to share it here to show you how much better I did.

However, as I rewatched the clip of the match before editing it, I took the opportunity to analyze it myself and saw multiple holes in my own game - holes that you and others mentioned in previous posts. And I started to think, ā€œif I show them this, they’d just tell me that nothing’s changed.ā€ So, I scrapped the idea. Yes, I had won, and wonderfully, but I saw then that yeah, it’s going to take some time…

It didn’t help that the very same player, with Eyedol, proceeded to pound me into oblivion the next 2 fights over…

…and yeah, in regards to the meaties, I know I’m ā€œdoing it wrongā€ - even Sightless could see that. It’s a bad habit with timing that I’m going to have to break (and then some) - and I knew this even as I read my own last post before any of you even brought it up.

@Infilament I can watch streams, but streaming myself? Not going to work - I’ve tried it… A lot.

You don’t have to be an Olympian to outrun the slowest person and not get eaten by the bear, am I right? :bear:

Although there could be holes, something changed.

This changed. You are acknowling how to improve your gameplay watching replays Geek. You noticed your mistakes in a way you weren’t before.

That fights where you say you were in your peak, surely had holes , but now you CAN see that.

And that makes you better player than before

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Also, I really don’t understand when you say stuff like this.

Even if you know, what do you win saying that?

When I gave you my analysis of our match, I knew that you could actually know some of the stuff I was typing. But you are not the only reader around. Somebody could learn from what we put here, not only the two players of the fight.

Seriously Geek, you don’t earn nothing stating this stuff. I would recommend you to drop it, because you could seem a bit cocky, to much proud, and we know you don’t want that.

Being humble will get you further :slight_smile:

Humble’s for the boring! I’m loud and proud! :grin: J/K

Seriously though, you’d be surprised at the amount of things I tell myself in the back of my head before doing something and end up ignoring when I shouldn’t… Sometimes I wonder if my cricket is asleep at the wheel. :sleeping:

Also, I’ve known about watching clips and what they could do, I just never really did it unless it was to record an awesome moment (which you can’t really learn from). :expressionless:

I watch plenty of others’ matches, both casually and at tournament level, and analyze the crud out of those, but in the end, even though I can learn from those (and have), those are not clips of me. They may help raise the ceiling, but they don’t help raise the floor, so-to-speak (to use Storm’s own analogy). :pensive:

@KagekaAkumu I think your base play is mostly solid, so I don’t have too much to comment on. Some of the bigger things I noticed though would probably be:

  1. You didn’t really make good use of Fulgore’s meter. You sat on large chunks of bar at numerous times during the set, but you weren’t pip cancelling with them, or using shadow cyber dash to blow up bats, or even just using the Fulgore on Ice mobility buff. You’d stock all this meter, and then sit on it and pretty much only use it to try and make a missed DP safe. Of all the utility Fulgore gets from his reactor, the ability to make his DP (mostly) safe ranks pretty low on the list. That meter would often have been better applied in this set to just outright punish bats.
  2. Too jumpy. After the third time Bass knocked you out of the air with down+HP->heavy reaping, you probably should have left it alone. His AA’s were generally very consistent in this set, and just about every time you jumped you paid a price. You really shouldn’t have been jumping in those situations in the first place though - Bass was very intentionally playing you at his perfect AA spacing for the most part. Fulgore’s fast enough that if you really wanted to jump you could have dashed and made deeper jump-ins that would’ve been more successful, but really why should Fulgore be jumping like that anyway? He has amazing grounded neutral tools; there’s no need to have to resort to jump-ins.
  3. Not playing he breaker game reactively. You got locked out a lot on medium reapings. There’s no reason to get locked out on any strength of that linker, because they all take forever to come out. Try and be patient when Mira is hitting you - getting locked out like that cost you huge chunks of life for the whole set.
  4. Watch the consistency on your break habits. This one is interesting because with the way Bass approached the combo game I think you probably played it right, but it’s still something you may wish to watch for. You tried to break probably 90% of all reaping linkers, maybe more. At about game 5 when Bass hadn’t counter broken a single one, I said to myself ā€œhe’s definitely going to counter break to win the setā€. Don’t mistake someone’s forbearance of your breaking habits as inattentiveness to them. Bass basically just didn’t feel like counter breaking you, and that’s something altogether different than being afraid of counter breaks. As I said, I think overall you got more utility out of breaking them than not, but watch out for the kind of consistent breaking you displayed here. That counter on win 10 was about as assured as a counter breaker gets.
  5. Work on your non-vortex offensive pressure. Something I think many Gores have gotten entirely too comfortable with is getting a knockdown into the free fireball mixup. It’s a great setup, but if you’ll notice, almost all of your damage on Bass came from those setups being right a couple times in a row, not from you actually winning true neutral. It’s great to be able to pile on damage via vortex, but you need to be able to win the real neutral game too at high level. Fulgore gets outdamaged by many characters, and there are players out there who are pretty darn good at blocking his particular brand of shenanigans. It’s not good if you’re over reliant on his vortex for your success. Fulgore’s true strength isn’t knockdown->meaty fireball - it’s incredible neutral control capacity. Learn to maximize that, and it will take you much further than his vortex.

Tomorrow was yesterday, so today is tomorrow for yesterday

You learned the lesson xD

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So a little help please. I’m not good at this tech stuff to much to learn. Takes away from beer drinking. Anyway… how do you upload matches here. Short of recording it on my old s4. Yeah I said s4. Thanks. Cheers!

S4? :confused:

Samsung S4.

Ah. I thought it’s Season 4. XD

I am stupid lol

Manual link to twitch replay

Let me say this? It’s hell trying to setup a twitch just to record matches.

Anyways, I wanted some analysis of a kinda close set i had. And because i couldn’t figure out how to work twitch and setting this up, i’ve already watched it 4 times lol. The only thing i want to say going into it is..

  1. Pick it apart.

  2. I play against Orchid usually by not quick rising as much to get put in their grenade setups. Depending on if they will make me respect DP me on wakeup determines how i play that. Otherwise, i try to pick my spots and punish mistakes. Feel free to offer advice for attacking this matchup as well.

Thanks in advance.

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Will totally look at it later. Bookmarked, so I don’t forget. :thumbsup:

And you Stream? :open_mouth:

Insta-followed lol

Lol, don’t get your hopes up.

I remember reading somewhere around here how to use twitch to record matches. I had a old twitch account i did nothing with and i pay Time Warner for the best internet outside of business speeds. Might as well put it to work for this.

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@SneerfulWater57 Can you please edit your post and make the twitch thing a link in between [ url ] tags? It auto-plays and there is a glitch in my browser so I can’t pause it. This forum’s support of embedded twitch videos is really terrible.

Also, I suppose I should also post this here since it’s an analysis:

I analyzed Bass vs Thompson’s FT10 on stream the other day, and posted it to youtube.

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@Infilament

Tried it, all i see are options for adding a hyperlink to a reply so i used that. Did that help?

No, didn’t help unfortunately.

Try this: [ url = Twitch ] Link to replay here [/url]

(without the spaces)

Would look like this: Link to replay here

How about now?

Yes, the manual link works, but you have to delete the first part with the embedded video now. :slight_smile: