Scalebound officially cancelled

Horizon Zero Dawn was one of the critical hits of last year’s E3 and Sony’s been marketing it pretty hard. Check out some footage of it. I think it looks pretty good.

As for The Last of Us 2, I’m actually in the minority that didn’t enjoy the first one. The story was okay, but I didn’t like the gameplay at all. Just didn’t appeal to me. That said, it’s clearly still a major release, and a far bigger arrow in Sony’s quiver than anything MS has coming out this year.

The Spider Man game, well… Maybe you didn’t enjoy the previous entries, but they were still pretty highly regarded, especially in the pre-Arkham era where it was one of the few superhero titles that really felt like it got things right as opposed to just being characters shoehorned in to a genre like a Batman side scrolling beat em up or whatever.

Other games possibly coming in 2017 include Nioh, Persona 5, Ace Combat 7, MLB 17, and possibly Uncharted: Lost Legacy, God of War, Death Stranding and others. Regardless of whether you’re interested in all of those games or none of them, it’s still an impressive list.

Maybe they don’t all make it this year. Maybe half of them slip to 2018 or beyond. But even if that were the case, I’d still rather have any five of those titles over anything MS has coming this year (unless we get KI Season 4, of course), and I can’t say that I’m happy about that as an XB1 owner.

I’m an avid gamer who reads and watches numerous bits of video game media and news every single day from numerous sources and I resent that you suggest I don’t know what’s going on in the industry simply because I choose not to follow the specific news of a console that I neither own or care to own. Why would I? That doesn’t mean I’m blind to the whole industry - just 1 small part of it. Besides, it’s impossible to know everything with the sheer amount of games being put out by everyone and their grandma nowadays… :unamused:

@Iago407 Ace Combat is still a thing? My brother will be happy to hear about that 1.

It’s impossible, but you are not blind to a small part of the industry: You are blind to the console you don’t own. Maybe more(PC, Nintendo…?)

Horizon was(and is) pretty well marketed AND advertised, If you haven’t heard of it you havent:

-Visited any multi platform website recently
-Watched Sony E3 conference
-The game is being advertised even in cinemas

It’s ok to NOT follow everything. No worries. But it’s not OK to just follow a part of the industry and infravalorate the rest

Not true necessarily. I visit IGN every single day, don’t watch any conferences but those pertaining to Xbox, and haven’t seen a film in theaters since Rogue One. Marketing still has it’s limits.

In any case, feel free to enlighten me.

I hate gaming rumors, but it’s very hard to imagine that a game could be announced two years ago and not have a single additional frame of game footage released and have development going “well.” I’m not so much worried about content per se - I have plenty of content in my Xbox and actually I’m spending a good amount of time enjoying smaller titles like Overcooked, Knight Squad (kids love this) and I’m enjoying Shantae 1/2 genie hero. Multi platform games like FFXV or Dishonored 2 are great. But where are the big games from MS? Canceled.

Again there’s no reason to turn this into yet another referendum thread in what @GalacticGeek knows. You know how to get to IGN, they have hundreds of pages and dozens of hours of video coverage of Horizon over the last two years. Go find some of it.

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Yeah, but I’m saying that more with the competition of the Playstation brand in mind. Even the original Xbox paled in comparison to the variety and quantity of exclusives the PS2 offered, and many still saw it as basically the Halo Machine.

Microsoft’s well of exclusives is getting shallower with the rest of the industry’s console giants, and it shows most of all on them because they were running behind in the first place. I’m just puzzled why, in all that history, they never upped the ante.

I think it has a lot to do with the multimedia side of things. The Xbox One, if you recall, wasn’t just advertised as playing games, but as the centerpiece to your living room. In addition to that, they’ve been trying some pretty cool and risky ventures, like with the Kinect and Hololens. Whereas Sony focuses on the games, MS is also pursuing other avenues.

I really couldn’t care about console wars and game lineups and all that. After all, I’m not a fan of most of the flagship titles.

But I am disappointed this got cancelled, now all I’m looking forward to this year so far (new game wise) are the two Sonic games.

Sonic hasn’t kept my interest since the original Sonic Adventure on the Sega Dreamcast, which was, IMO, the last good game in the series. Everything after was just bad.

Let’s not start that, please.

This whole thread has been off-topic for a while now, I admit. That said, I was just sharing my opinion, since you brought up your namesake.

Nope. Everyone but you is talking about the cancellation of Scalebound and what it means for Microsoft’s 2017 lineup.

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I’m glad this never happened to KI. Even after Double Helix dropped the development of this game. Thank you so much Iron Galaxy Studios and Microsoft Studios. Its been a great trip through all these years.

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Well, to be fair, most consoles paled in comparison to what the PS2 offered, but I get your point. It’d still be nice to see them do better.

Eh, many would be wrong then. That game had a ton of great exclusives over several different genres.

I think they still have a good number of franchises, but they’ve more or less abandoned most of them and none of the new games they create or partner on seem to become franchises. This has been my biggest issue with MS over the last several years.

I mean, what are they known for? Besides two shooters that are starting to get a little long in the tooth and two racing games (that are both named Forza, one of which is getting a little over exposed). There’s not much in the way of a variety of dependable franchises, where a new system comes out and you’re excited to see how they innovate on this series or that series.

As much as I like Phil Spencer and as much as I think he’s been great for MS, he’s failed to deliver on the promise of going in to the catalog and bringing back some of the great games fans have been waiting for sequels on for years. Killer Instinct is really one of the few successful titles I can think of, and they still went with a wonky release and a lower budget approach.

I don’t know if MS corporate is squeezing the Xbox division and trying to get them to do more with less or what, but for a company that came in to the console wars guns blazing, the list of great games that turned in to great franchises never really took shape, and that’s really a shame.

I bought an original Xbox for DOA3, some Sega titles and Halo and I kept it for MechAssault, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Rallisport, Forza, Fable, Riddick, Jade Empire, KOTOR, and other Sega titles. Out of all of those great games on that system, how many of them are series that we still get new and innovative iterations on? ONE.

I bought a 360 hoping to see many of those titles. Instead, I saw Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Dance Central, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Ninety Nine Nights, Alan Wake, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, Perfect Dark, Kameo and others. Again, some good stuff there. But not a lot from the last generation. How many of those have we seen on Xbox One?

Fable and Dance Central seem to be dead (for now), but we still have Halo, Gears and Forza. We also have Killer Instinct, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Sea of Thieves, Ori, the first Titanfall, Dead Rising, Gigantic, Ryse, Inside and some indy titles.

Again, not a bad lineup so far, but what are fans supposed to hang their hats on? Can I expect a Sunset Overdrive 2 on this system? The next system? Or Killer Instinct for that matter? It honestly seems like they keep Halo, Forza and maybe another game or two around for a while and everything else just disappears. Did you like MechAssault? Too bad. Crimson Skies? Nope. Lost Odyssey? Sorry. How about Alan Wake? How about no.

I appreciate getting new IPs as much as the next guy, but I don’t buy a system for the promise of games coming that I might like, that at this point I’ve never heard of. I buy in hopes that I’ll get new iterations on games that I already know I’ll like and then when the new experiences from new IPs come along, so much the better. MS tends to nail the second part, but they’re honestly terrible with the first.

Microsoft’s well isn’t shallow, it’s incredibly deep, IMO. They just never go to it.

Apologies for jumping in, but that’s how the Xbox was initially marketed. When that blew up in their faces in spectacular fashion, Phil came in and all of a sudden it’s “we’ve heard you, and from now on, it’s all about the games.” They basically killed the Kinect and personally, I can’t imagine Hololens seeing the light of day on consumer Xbox’s for a long time, if ever.

Sony’s also divided their focus a bit now that they’re going full steam ahead on VR. I’m really hoping MS avoids that path. As much as I think Sony has a better lineup of games in the foreseeable future, I’d still rather have an E3 full of console games rather than some console games and some dopey looking VR titles, but that’s just me.

Agreed. Honestly, given how many titles have been canned in the last two years plus the number of franchises that seemingly fall in to the abyss, it feels more like a minor miracle that KI’s still around. Huge shout out to guys on both the MS side and IG side for keeping this amazing experience going. :slight_smile:

Wow, that’s rough. I was very much looking forward to that game. :disappointed:

Honestly, I think the future of gaming is $20 downloadable games that people actually buy and play from start to finish. Rather than $60 games that have enormous production budgets and need to sell 12 million copies to break even but the average player only gets to through half of it.

I’d be excited for Phil and MS to pick a direction and go with it - whatever direction they choose. But they aren’t flooding the market with lower budget titles either. Go hire the Indie team that made Foul Play and get them to do a new Battletoads beat em up. That has to be better than doing… nothing.

I am completely willing to believe that Scalebound deserved to be killed. But if you kill all of your projects and don’t replace them with anything then what’s left? I bought into the OG Xbox because I was playing Monster Hunter with my brother and RE Outbreak on PS 2 and we were literally on speaker phone while we played. Only MS and Xbox Live were doing online chat then. People forget how much they really did push the industry especially with online. Truthfully, third parties have followed suit but Sony and Nintendo? Still way behind.

But OG Xbox had games like Splinter Cell and although I never liked Halo, it was a big deal that took advantage of the systems online capability. Xbox One has… KI. Gears, Halo and Forza (probably too much Forza).

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Let’s not get into specifics now… Still, I think Iago and others have proven you wrong since a lot of the discussion has escalated from a single game cancellation to an entire platform of exclusives (or lack thereof) and how they compare to the competition (which IMO isn’t even really worth comparing, as they’re both good for their own reasons).

@Iago407 Back during XB1’s release, I was 1 of the rare few who supported it…

…all of it.

Expanding the discussion of what Scalebounds cancellation means in the context of Microsoft’s lineup is on topic.

Chiming in to say “I don’t like Sonic games” or “I’ve never heard of that game,” is off topic.

Not really rocket science.

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I guess microsoft did what need to be done. Perhaps if they release scalebound it would be no man sky all over again.

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That’s actually more of what I was trying to do. I may have drifted a little too far in the process of ranting (my apologies BTW), but I do think that Scalebound’s production time and ultimate cancellation are worthy of a larger discussion that revolves around not only that title, but other cancelled titles, the implications for the 2017 lineup, and how MS has been with their exclusives as a whole. I personally think it’s all connected and worth talking about, especially in the wake of news that’s disappointed some fans. Maybe not others, but some.

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