Its not dead! Kung Fu for Kinect is coming soon! Hiieeeeehhh YYaaaaaahhhhh!
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Well, it was sort of on topic as to Phil keeping his promises and how he doesn’t have the best of track records at keeping his word. Kinect was the example. So, I am skeptical as to how managing three consoles or rather two consoles will work out.
Skepticism is more than fair at this point, considering history and all we know about it right now is “best pixels” and teraflops and it will be a “monster.” But Apple doesn’t worry about managing multiple platforms. They have one OS that basically runs everything except for a few higher end games that only run on the latest device. Yes, I know this is different, but honestly, looking at my library of games I play a lot of Xbox One games that could be on 360. Some of them are backwards compatible, a few run at better resolution and frame rate, but lots are essentially the same. Some blockbuster games look fantastic already. Pushing the visual quality that X1 already has to 4K will be pretty demanding. If Scorpio is just a 4K/VR version of X1 I don’t really need it. And if it’s more than the cost of a GeForce 1080 then I have no idea why it’s preferable to upgrading my PC.
Other unanswered questions - will it have a disc drive?
I really enjoy my kinect…even though I dont fully use it… i do like the log in feature, and telling it what to do. Like “record that” and STOP LISTENING!
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I like voice command. But the login feature has never done anything but wreck my life. It never gets the members of my family right and then kicks me out of games that are above my son’s restriction level even when he’s not there. I actually cover up the camera now. It was a cool idea that just never worked well enough to be practical…
As an aside, does the “new” controller have the stupid flashing IR lights that Kinect recognizes? That would be a pretty good indicator that Konect is dead and buried…
So with what you said, for someone who will essentially purchase an S model down the line. What is the purpose of even investing in a Scorpion, 4k, more teraflops? The details are vague but is it really necessary just by what information we have. Also as you mentioned, I didn’t catch hint of a disk drive… huge no off the bat. Still, I wouldn’t imagine they fall for the same mistake twice, unless they truly are stubborn.
Side note: Auto correct changed teraflops to triceratops, hilarious.
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Wasn’t that already out on 360? I don’t even see any upcoming titles for connect 
I couldn’t tell you what the benefits are because right now even MS doesn’t know what the final product will be. They are selling it as “raw power” and the ability to game in 4K, which neither console does now. If you game on a 4K tv and you can afford it, why wouldn’t you get one over an Xbox S?
Beats me. We know controllers will be compatible which is good and long overdue. I love my XOne controllers but there’s no reason why any game I have on XOne wouldn’t work with a 360 controller (cough cough, FIGHTSTICKS, cough cough). We know the existing library will work and presumably the OS will be the same as the current X1. Which is good - not because of any greatness related to the Os but at least it will be consistent.
My real question is, will this be the “high end, deluxe” version with bells and whistles and a luxury price (which I think will be a mistake) or will they get the price down. If they do, what will be jettisoned. Teraflops? No HDD? No wifi? What?
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No its on the Coming soon list in the Xbox 1 store. Made by Air guitar games or something.
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Of course they will end up dropping the xb1 lol the sooner the better no need holding back the scorpio in my opinion.
I’ve always suppported the Kinect, and still do. It enables me to still speak with other players in most games (and I hate it when they don’t; e.g., Call of Duty and World of Tanks) without having to rely on the headset, which I can’t use effectively with my hearing loss, since my hearing aids cause a whistling feedback loop with them (and I can’t hear squat without them). It’s a wonderful tool for the hearing impaired since I can adjust the volume to my speakers better than any headset.
I can use a headset to speak to you, of course, but I can’t use it to hear you guys. I can only wear it on my neck, and is mostly only done as a favor to you guys so you can hear me better (despite the fact that I rarely receive complaints about my Kinect, and unlike most, have actually calibrated it properly). Furthermore, for some reason, the headset always picks up my ceiling fan, giving a game’s chat interface the illusion that I’m always talking, even though other players don’t actually hear anything until I talk - I don’t have this issue with the Kinect. Lastly, I like how I can still use my speakers to hear others when in party chat while “wearing” the headset, but wish that that feature would carry over into game chat as well - it currently doesn’t. I also wish every game supported Kinect chat, because for me, it’s practically a necessity.
As for the topic on hand, PS doesn’t release until the tail-end of 2017. Will its high end specs still be relevant by then, I wonder?
I am totally in agreement with you. But the good and useful part of Kinect is basically a speaker phone. The cameras, motion tracking etc. is just raising the price and going unused.
As far as the Scorpio specs (PS is probably an unfortunate acronym), I think your question is very relevant. I’m sure it will be powerful but power isn’t the issue. It’s power vs cost. I am firmly of the opinion that Ms is not behind because Xbox one is underpowered. They are behind because it was overpriced. The less powerful system has won every generation since Ps1 launched - and so has the cheapest.
So if MS’s solution is to drop another console priced at $700 I think they are going to fail and fail hard. I think they will struggle to make the case at $500. But considering the ecosystem they are creating which is very pro PC, they are going to have to convince me that Scorpio is a better option than upgrading my PC. I understand they will have a lot of people saying it’s cheaper than an equivalent gaming PC (and it will be) but it will be less versatile, and less upgradeable. So I think it’s a tall order. But I am eager to see what they do.
see, I dunno if this is something intended for most of its consumer base to buy. I feel like this much work for a more powerful console is definitely gonna cost a bit more (a bit is a lot depending on who you are). I would liken it to Dell XPS and Alienware, where your Xbox One now becomes the XPS (heh, unfortunate acronym for Xbox Project Scorpio, this is a minefield @BigBadAndy) in this comparison.
It’s a fair point. I’m just having a hard time, in a world where consoles and PC’s are converging and MS is clearly supporting that convergence, finding a space for a $1000 console.
If you have read my posts in the past you know I’m not a PC master race kind of guy. I prefer gaming on console because I like having an easy to use box hooked up to my TV. I think the streaming aspects of a 4K Xbox appeal to me a bit this way - but frankly the only 4K TV in my house is not somewhere I game and it’s able to stream in 4K on it’s own. To be fair, maybe everything will be totally different a year from now and maybe I’m fixating on my own needs too much. But I’m really struggling to imagine people upgrading to an expensive console in this day and age.
Lol about the acronyms. Turns out there aren’t any left…
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And I absolutely agree, which is why I’m here discussing it with you guys so I can make some sense of this somehow.
Just as a side note, I have. I like your posts, among a select few on this forum, enough to respond in hopes of an argument that leads to something positive.
Sooooo I instantly feel so much poorer for using a 7 year old LCD.
Kinda. We’ve seen tech leap bounds over the past few years, the landscape could be so different in a year’s time.
And you’re right, maybe people won’t immediately upgrade to an expensive console. But (the few classes I stayed awake) we learned a theory in Economics that focused on getting the cream of the market first, and then trickling down to a wider audience. And that is what the Scorpio would seem like to me. (Assumption incoming) This may bridge the gap that MS left in releasing an under-powered console for what was assumed to be a long life cycle.
LOL. Thanks dude. The 4K TV was hugely discounted for Christmas and only a tiny bit more expensive than getting the 1080p version. As an aside, it’s a 55" that hangs on a wall and although I have streamed some 4K tv shows it’s really not doing so much for me that I’m eager to upgrade any of the other TVs in the house.
Do any of you tech junkies in here know what the minimum hardware MS would have to drop in this thing to meet the claims they are making (besides “best pixels”)? That would give us some idea of what the price might look like…
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Ok so when getting a 4K TV…what actually works with it in 4K? Obviously the Cable channels arent going to be 4K, DVDs arent 4K, Blue Ray isnt 4K??
What is 4K? lol One of my employees was asking yesterday and I didnt know what to tell her. What the ll plays in 4k?
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If the device is hooked up through an appropriate cable (Hdml 2.0) or if the TV itself is Internet ready you can stream some things in 4k. I can get stuff off Netflix. It’s not a lot - people actually have HDD’s full of weird videos because there is nothing else to use in their tvs. But there will soon be Blu Ray content in 4k. I don’t know the details - honestly I wasn’t that interested. I just figured I would future proof since it was on sale, lol. But apparently we will soon be playing xbox games in 4K…
So basically there is no reason to get a 4K TV right now unless you just want to be prepared? I think Id rather wait until there is enough content to justify having it and by that time they will make the TVs with more additions at a cheaper price?
This is always true for new technologies. But I actually think 4K is one of those things that doesn’t really hurt. So if you are buying a new tv for one reason or another you can consider it.
The other thing that remains true is that if you are talking about a 29 inch computer monitor that you are sitting a foot away from, you will see an improvement between 1080p and 4K. But even on my 55" TV in my decent sized living room siting 8-10 feet away it’s not always so obvious what is and isn’t 4K. If you walk up to the thing and stick your face in it, you can tell it stays crisp and you can’t pick out the pixels even up close but as far as sitting for regular use? Eh. We aren’t talking about the kind of obvious visual leap from from 480i to 720p here. You don’t need 4K in a tv smaller than 50 inches unless you plan to glue it to your retina or unless you just love talking about how awesome your tv is.
Having said that I am nearly certain someone will jump in to argue with me about this. But in my opinion we are kind of moving beyond pixel counting. My iPhone screen looks great. I have no idea how many pixels it is, other than that they are high density because the screen is small. Which brings me back on topic - I suspect a lot of people, myself included, will be more interested in what Scorpio adds to the experience at 1080, rather than pushing 4 k pixels. And of course VR, if that really is a thing (I have my doubts).