I think it’s important to understand that the ones who act like a-holes are a lound minority. There are still plenty of fans of her, who do requets her but are being respectful as well.
Its easy to focus on the negatives (Human brain thing.) But its not ideal to assume its all 100% negative.
That too is likely. Heck I’m among those reptile fans waiting and hoping for the chance of Reptile coming back to jump back into MK11. Though I think his chances are not likely right now.
And yet they’re still so afraid to touch the 3D era characters with a 30 foot rope dart. So many of them have a lot of potential. But they’re ignoring them to include more Trilogy characters we’ve already seen so many times. At this point, all I want is Ashrah and Havik.
Ahh, I see. Thank you for your help.
Like me. Personally, I didn’t expect her to make it into the game, so I’m quite pleased to see that I was wrong.
As has been discussed before, while those characters do have fans, they’re in the minority. Most of the 3D era characters are not popular and the 3D-era games themselves poorly received. In contrast, the original trilogy characters are hugely popular and those games were strongly received.
And I’m happy for you.
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n a way yes. Hsu Hao, Kobra, Mavado, were some examples. Not to mention We’ve seen alot of Black Dragons Presence in deception.
I did have a favorite in the 3D era though, Onaga, but I know he can’t appear until we get a story that would Justify his appearance and he’s not likely to be playable like he was in MKA. Now Havik I think has the potentiol to return for sure. If he doe ssomehow considering that Scorpion did him in in the comics. But maybe they’re saving him for an event in a future game. But hey anything can happen.
Interesting fact: A second Mortal Kombat X comic series was pitched, but never commissioned. In it, Onaga was one of the primary antagonist.
It picks up after that previous comic series, with Kui Liang holding a tournament for inclusion into the Lin Kuei. Goro is sent by the Red Dragon to steal the egg of Onaga, which the Lin Kuei are guardians of. Goro succeeds, but the egg posses him, and he transforms into Onaga, escapes to Outworld, and conflict ensues.
The comic was designed to really cement the relationship between Sub-Zero and Frost and how she came to trust him. It was meant as a parallel to Hanzo and Takeda. The failure of the Lin Kuei to guard the egg, and the danger it posses to Outworld, futher sours the relations between Realms, and better explains Kotal’s behaviour against Earthrealm in the game’s story.
A few intro lines in Mortal Kombat 11 reference this plot, though since it was never made, it is non-canon.
Dude, that sounds amazing! I would have LOVED to have seen this as a comic!
Well that’s sad. But hey look at this way we can hopefully see Onaga in the future.
The idea of remaking those characters to MAKE people like them HAS to be an attractive idea. And also, the 3D era games certainly weren’t poorly received at the time. People just over blow it now because of characters like Hsu Hao existing.
And at this point, how many Trilogy characters are even left? Reptile, Ermac, Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, the Cyber Ninjas (who I do want back so…), Smoke, and Stryker. Plus Quan Chi because they treat him like a Trilogy character despite not being one.
How’s this for a final five? Takaeda, The Tekunin (Cyber Ninjas done TMNT style), Ashrah, Havik, and Ash Williams.
Actually I did recall Hsu Hao being hated even during that era. The 3D games had awesome gameplay but some of the 3D era characters were just hated for reasons that may vary.
Frost, Haviok, Kenshi are some of the examples fan favorites in the 3D era. I think some were well received and the others were lukewarm in fan reception at best. Do I think they can improve these characters? of course, but only time will tell. We may even see some 3D era characters in MK12 if not MK11
Sadly Ermac chances are currently in the air. Reptile I still have some hope for, but who knows.
Sektor and Cyrax have a chance for sure.
Imagine if they kept adding to MK11 until every MK character was in it. No way they’ed ever do that. But imagine.
Yeah, there’s no way they’d do that, as that would be an invitation for trouble.
It’s a shame with the former, just because the design for him in the Krypt is really cool. I hope for Reptile they kind of use his more human appearance from the originals. I mean, yeah, I know his default look isn’t human, but the thing that made him interesting was precisely because of the fact that he was a creature masquerading as a human and that his mental degradation is reflected in his appearance. I think some fun gameplay stuff could be done with that idea.
I’m curious what you mean by that.
Just saw an old DM from about 5 months ago that told me there was an article where Bruce Campbell himself said that Ash was cut from the game due to MGM getting greedy at the last minute.
A: I can’t find that article
B: What I can find are a bunch of unrelated statements that COULD mean that if you link them together with some conjecture
C: Things change over time anyway, so those statements really only apply to the content of KP1.
D: I can’t imagine that MGM values Evil Dead more then RoboCop to the point that they would upcharge for one and not the other. No offense but they’re both pretty niche.
All that said. I still think Ash is coming eventually. Lot’s of what I’ve been learning about media companies in film school just makes all this “evidence” about Ash being scrapped extremely suspect. I think what’s far more likely is that a combination of both changing development practices, the pandemic, promoting the Joker movie taking precedence with WB, and yes potentially issues with MGM, all lead to him being shifted to the end of the pipeline. Because, you have to admit, Ash would make a spectacular Grand Finale.
It’s one of those, It’d be awesome moments, but not likely to happen. This is because the number got bigger than before.
I do love reptile very much, but I also disagree with the human reptile thing. Yes it did explain his change over time, but now we have new technology to allow Reptile to have a reptillian appearance. Not to mention it help adds to making him diffrent apart from being even further sense he was a palate swap.
Truthfully I’d like to see an even more degraded and more animalistic Reptile, kind of like what we saw in the movie.
Oh definitely, we have the technology to make Reptile more…well, reptilian, than we did decades ago, but by the same token, though, I’ve always been fond of the palette swap human version, just because I love the idea of a creature masquerading as a human. I kind of had been hoping that something could be done where that is a gameplay feature/element other than just a skin, with all sorts of body transformation/horror aspects. Like, he turns into different species like a snake or something, grows a tail, etc.
I think we should keep the scaly skin reptile because his current designs reflects his story in the lore more. MKX especially strikes that perfect balance. Sure, the human skin reptile is nostalgic, My favorite classic version of him is MK2. But I also like how well they pulled off his current design. Palate swaps not inherently a bad thing but we need to make each ninja different from one another in more than just moves or color.
Now some people have argued that the human skin does add mystery. But while I can see that, it isn’t much of a mystery when a human is spitting acid.
Also Jeff’s been busy but he wanted me to throw down his opinion on this as well.
"The mystery can be solved at the begining of the match, so there is no need to be invested. Also I do prefer reptile’s look because he isn’t just 'reptile in name only. and adds that truly reptilians look to the roster. But also still remains classic as well "
On another hand, making the human reptile a skin is a win/win for all camps. We get a human skin for those who loved the human reptile, and Reptile also keeps his scaly skin as well. It’s a perfect compromise in my opinion.
While I do love the idea reptile being a snake, sadly that became the symbol for Shang Tsung throughout the MK lore.
So I think this would a be great second choice for his animality.
Especially when you see this in the krypt. so they could make the creature look like how it is in the statue.
I got a huge kick out of seeing that in the Krypt. That was really cool.
True, I suppose.
