Lots of good info being posted! Yesterday served as a time for me to get acquainted with her and see how the land lays.
-her normals are good and have range. St.Mp for me was useful if I saw opponent doing a slow attack. It also makes for a good poke it seems. St.Fk is also very good since it’ll push her forward, and also has good range, Mid screen distance. We all know cr.mk is an absolute must in the footsy game. Other posts have covered her other stuff. Neutral jump Fp rocks, makes for good whiff punish
-I also enjoyed doing her mid air mist cancels for cross ups and feint cross ups. It costs hp, but you’ll get an opponent that is confused and pushing buttons. Have bats in the air and it gets worse for them.
-mira has some strong corner pressure. Meaty lp bats, her 50/50 reaper slashes, and mist to dodge their attacks can really cause havoc. If they jump, we have AA options. If they’re grounded, we have many tools to open them up and then wallsplat > bite.
Is anyone else struggling to land LP bite outside of combos? I feel like every time I attempt it I whiff, even if the other player isn’t jumping/dashing, unless our characters are physically inside each other.
Granted this is from ~ 6 games of Ranked only, but I lost at least two games because I couldn’t land LP bite, then got too engrossed in trying to land HP bite because of the pounce aspect.
I was also struggling to continue combos after Triphane linker occasionally, I’d get my AD after and then Mira would stand there like a fool refusing to do another Triphane linker. I plan to try to use the Reaper more in combo and see if that helps.
Did a bit of a quick check on her hitboxes. A few things to note:
MP embrace in theory is an excellent AA, it turns out. On top of what I’d already noted about it’s quick startup, great range and plenty of active frames, it completely erases her hurtbox from the waist up from frame 1 until end of active frames.
c.HP puts up a wall of hitbox above and ahead of her, and it follow the arm’s movement, and not the blood, so it’s actually quicker and better than I thought. These two together should really give Mira great tools to keep the opponent from trying to hop around too much.
j.MP should be an amazing air to air. 7f startup, huge hitbox above and ahead and then extends forward a bit and disappears above her head. Not that many active frames, but it should be great to neutral jump and cut off opponents that like to act like flees around our heads (I’m thinking shago j.HP spam or predictable cross up attempts from any other character). Mist should also solve this, but it costs life.
s.MP is really just as awesome as it looks xD 8f startup, huuuuge reach and only -2 on block, in case you just want to poke with it.
I didn’t even try landing lk bite much, the range is worse than hisako influence range. The time I did land it, I used it as a meaty on opponent waking up with a block. I’ll do the Fk variant over it most of the time, tends to catch victims by surprise. I’ll tick throw it off st.fk at range too
Late edit: holy ■■■■ does mira HURT. Yesterday I landed a 95% damage combo on an opponent. All it took was a lock out, instinct cancel, 1 meter for shadow trephine, heavy linkers with heavy AD (during the lockout) and shadow dmg ender. Lol, I think I may have counter broken but can’t recall.
The range is really only marginably better than her regular throw, which isn’t great. You can tick throw by doing jump in j.HK > c.LP (which is +2) > LP bite (not canceled, obviously, but timed), or set it up after a block HK drill, which is also +2. Both of these setups will basically guarantee that if the opponent tries anything that isn’t throw invulnerable will get caught by the bite.
Thanks for the tips, I’ll try to keep those in mind and let you know if they’re working out for me.
I’m also pretty confused about whether there’s much combo potential after her back-HP command, I didn’t feel like that was easy to use as an opener for a larger combo.
Mira might end up being my May Challenge character, so I want to try to pick up tidbits ASAP.
As much as it feels like it makes sense that you should occasionally be throwing in drill and bite linkers to make it harder for the opponent to just look for the more damaging and easier to break scythe linkers, I found I was less successful when I tried that. My linkers were still going through at about the same rate, but I was often losing out on the absurd damage boost that a scythe linker will give you immediately after a lockout. Even if you do get broken more often it really feels like it’s worth it to press the issue with scythe linkers as much as possible, because the damage is so huge.
Like I thought, shadow bats is definitely the best use of her meter. On hit you have a MASSIVE window to manual whatever you want, including jumping moves. On block, you’re nearly as plus, and can go right back in for another high/low, OR you can go for a basic 3-way airdash mixup–crossup j.hk, empty jump over low, or jump forward airdash back with whatever for a fake crossup. It’s one of her best tools and it’s actually a relief that it costs you shadow meter, as you’re not paying precious health for this strength.
2MK xx HK bite seems like a good idea but there’s a serious issue with it. If it counter hits, your opponent will be kept in hitstun long enough that the grab will whiff through them, leaving you open for a punish. If you’re going to tick by cancelling into HK bite, stick to 2 hit normals that won’t be affected by counter hits.
As other have said, MK bite is a good anti-air. Its range is good, its hurtbox is small, it’s fast, and like all her raw bites it fills up a big chunk of her black health. Given the choice between her highly damaging 2HP xx HP scythe recapture AA and her MK bite, if she has enough black health on her I think MK bite is going to be a better option in most situations. More health = more fun!
Speaking of more health, if you’re not careful it’s very possible to ■■■■■ up and end up with only a single instinct per match. Keep that health topped up. Any character can have their health bar obliterated for making messing up badly, but when mira messes up badly her failure stings especially badly.
One small bug I ran into, not sure if anyone else had this happen, was that two or three times her recapture left them standing much further away than normal, and trying to follow up with doubles would just whiff.
Corner combo tech i saw on a vid (cant share vid due to firewall)
LP bats > trephine > bats hit > after bats hit stun > cr.FP manual > reaper linker > wallsplat ender > EX bats with immediate instinct cancel > instinct bat hits after EX bats do cross up mist J.FK > cr.MK manual > bite linker (or whatever linker you want) > Reaper DMG ender.
combo will go past the 70% damage mark. as to the health currency of this tech it’ll be pricey, recommend you do it when your victim is on his red bar and you are on your green bar. this should be somewhat more difficult to break than your run of the mill combo i suppose. its quite flashy, but as to its viability and if its necessary remains to be seen.
another thing that i began thinking about and this mindset had came upon me during my day 1 session. i began to think upon having the opponent reaching his red bar, that my own green bar suddenly became its own resource for me to spend at my will without worry of trying to get it back. as you all know, the commentators from the tournaments weve been watching always say “hes on his green bar, hes getting free damage right now”. think about it, you’re wrecking their last bar, and you’re on your green one still. you can blow it all up and kill them outright if it goes well…or play it safe and continue to sustain
always start with the basics. learn her normals, learn their ranges so you can be confident in the neutral game. then you start doing her combos and learn the timing of her auto doubles, manuals, etc. learn the ins and outs of her command grabs, her bats, and of course her shadows. just start basic, then start to build it up from there. also of course learn her wallsplat command grab follow up with the FK variant. after that play with her instinct mode and its buffs. always start from the ground up with a new fighter
it looked like LP bats, it was hard to tell since the guy doin the tech had his life regen on. try medium bats > light cannon, or light bats > medium cannon
Ok that mira throw combo video im having a hell of a time i get the sweep bats fome out hard punch and i can’t seem to get close enough to grab before hp bats hit
More i play i feel theres some sort of lag on my tv
Is there a use for shadow reaping? It’s not invincible despite the much smaller hitbox compared to the animation. And it doesn’t cash out for jack. It barely does more damage then the regular reaping ender. At lower ender levels it’s not even a full percent more
