I think that would be great also if MS matches the donation outside of EVO. I have no doubt that MS would if it was “Gears” or “Halo”. The truth is that MS will never see KI is nothing more than a “Free to Play” title by a indie game company, and not worth putting real money into.
Yes the evidence of there being a second and third season completely supports your speculation…
Oh wait…
There’s a lot of entitlement going on in this thread, not a whole lot of logic though.
You might hate Microsoft for whatever reason. The fact is the reason we have a season 1, 2 and 3 is because of them whether you like it or not. Another fact is MS is offering season 2 for free to promote the game through games for gold. Another fact KI has had stage time at multiple expo events sponsored by Microsoft not to mention MS sponsored booths at conventions.
As a PC gamer I’m astonished at the fact MS has spent so much in porting GoW4 and KI to PC with crossplay and play anywhere. Most other companies only port to PC if they know there will be a significant profit and even then you have to pay for it again. If I buy EA’s battlefield titles on Xbox I certainly don’t get them for free on PC. And yes of the play anywhere games they are Halo Wars, Gears and KI. Seems to me KI is getting similar treatment to their larger franchises.
Do I wish KI had a larger budget? Absolutely. But to dismiss MS’s contribution to the franchise is ignorant at best.
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Was wondering if you guys are interested in creating sort of a surge of donations in a particular day and time. KI started off pretty hot in the beginning but we’re tapering off a bit. Let’s see if we can make some momentum happen.
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This sounds like a great idea. I already threw my money into the pot though.
I understand. It would still help if we can get as many people no matter how small the donation to create some sort of “money bomb” day. We need to show that the grassroots of KI means business and we’re not out of the hunt. I think a good target goal is to eclipse $10,000 the next few days.
If anyone is reading this post with more social clout in the KI community, it would be awesome if you guys can coordinate both hardcore and casual to schedule a Money Bomb.
Another note. I just realized that you don’t have to pay the operating expense fee of $7.50 on Generosity as well. So if anyone was hesitant making a small donation without being hit with a fee, you don’t need to pay it. It’s optional.
They ported a game they virtually never advertise so people that already know it exists can play it on a platform they already owned. They advertise it to die-hard MS fans and nobody else. Cool story, what a grand contribution.
Let’s not kid ourselves. MS has supported the franchise, sure, nobody can argue that. But their support, apart from risking it’s resuscitation, has been minimal at best.
On a similar note, let’s not mistake this EVO situation - the donation drive is ONLY for main-stage presence. Losing the donation drive doesn’t mean that KI WON’T be at EVO, it’ll just be one of many side-tourneys that don’t get stream time on Sunday. I can’t imagine UA not running a tourney & stream at EVO just because we didn’t make main-stage. And even if we lose, the charity is good enough cause to toss $10 at. That’s a burger and a coffee.
@StrawCheese7978 If there’s gonna be a “money bomb” day, it’s gonna be in the final moments, just like any other auction.
And for all of you who are new to this whole FGC/EVO thing, this donation drive for community choice slot is not new. 2013 came down to Melee & Skullgirls (which was a brand-new indie game at the time, and sadly they’ve still never been main-stage). Worth noting that the Brony game that was in-development at the time was also a part of the donation drive, and it raised an enormous amount in the first days and rapidly ran out of steam, and thus was overtaken by huge margins in the final days.
It’s also worth noting that Injustice was part of that donation drive, and it only raised about $70, but was appointed to the main-stage as the EVO date approached anyway, because major studios have that sort of influence.
It’s also worth noting that no NRS game to date has lasted more than 2 years on main-stage.
wow. lame MvC 3 ultimate is in the lead by 2k+ over pokken and 4k+ over KI lol. i guess the SF community wants to see more 1 touch death combos :\
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Lets think about this statement for a moment. What you’re saying is that MS ported a game at a cost to themselves that only served to benefit the customers who already own the game. Now personally I know this to be somewhat false given that I know there were a fair amount of people who picked the game up on PC since they didn’t want to buy an xbox. But lets just forget that, basically what you’re saying is that Evil Miser Microsoft did something that only served to benefit the fans and not their bottom line. By that logic I’d say that’s pretty noble of them.
So for the marketing specialist in here. MDM what specifically should they do to market the game? And since you’re obviously an expert can you please give me the % demographics that would be hit based on the different avenues of marketing that you provide? What I’m saying is, if you think MS should dump money into TV advertising can you provide numbers as to what the RoI for TV advertisement is? I for one use streaming services and haven’t seen a commercial in a long time.
Marvel is an EVO mainstay, perhaps the most popular game for Western audiences. It should have been main-stage to begin with, and KOF14 should have been on the donation drive.
Then we’d be in second.
I am almost certain that KOF will flop at EVO. If they have as many entrants as we did last year, it will only be due to EVO’s overall growth. Bet.
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Not what I was saying. Knowing a game exists and owning it are different. I was one of those cats that held out for the PC port, and I only knew about the game through the FGC.
Cool fanboyism, but are you really trying to argue that marketing doesn’t help sell a product? Moreover, are you really suggesting that television is the only form of advertisement?
I would try getting back in bed, and then waking up on the right side of it.
I completely understand especially if we’re close enough to compete in the final days ahead. However, I think we as a community need to do a few bombs in the middle stages of the donation to drive some momentum and give some hope to the KI community.
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So what specifically do they need to do to make it so people know a game exists?
I mean the way I found out about Halo/Gears series is through the stage time and trailers they had at expos. But as I recall KI did this as well.
This has nothing to do with fanboyism. If anything I’m a steam/valve fanboy based on how many games I own on that platform and the amount of time I’ve spent playing Dota. But thanks for using the typical cop out of calling me a fanboy to dismiss my points I can see a mature debate won’t happen with you. I’m sorry I can’t just conveniently ignore consumer friendly practices like giving me free PC ports for games I own on another platform.
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Homie. Chill.
If not a fanboy, then maybe don’t be a prick about it.
That’s not at all what I said.
Yes or no: does advertising help sell a product?
If yes: where have you seen KI advertised outside of Microsoft exclusive sources, be it XBox hub or MS cons, etc.?
Okay, but Halo/Gears get major adspace on gaming media sites, youtube, television, magazines, etc.
KI does not.
Not ignoring - saying they likely aren’t bringing in lots of extra revenue from this practice. It’s awesome for us that they did it. Not so much for them, and by extension, probably not so much for KI’s budget.
Does MS need to advertise KI on TV? No they don’t, but they could support it a little more during that Major Nelson crap. They could also do some small tournaments at the Gears and Halo tournaments that Major Nelson does advertise every week. They didn’t waste any time putting Halo and Gears tournaments inside the KIWC.
Now I don’t think KI deserves as much ad time as Gears/Halo, but they could do alot better.
They ported KI to PC as a test run to a small group “Us” before they tried to do it with larger titles. Even now when say talk about play anywhere titles, KI is not even brought up.
Some people here are not entitled when it cones to wanting KI at EVO. They are just getting a little burned out on supporting a game that MS cares very little anout.
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Bottom line, they should be talking about KI more as it is the ONE FG on the system that is still growing and thriving, on top of the fact that it is an MS property.
Was that MS? Or was that Brandon’s call. The KIWC is his baby, not MS’s.
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That took me about 3 seconds on google. Enjoy the E3 trailer.
I don’t deny that marketing serves the purpose to sell units. That’s obvious. But what I’m asking to all of you who seem to feel entitled to MS’s marketing budget is what should they do? You seem to claim they don’t spend any money in marketing. I just google KI E3 and pulled up a trailer.
You want them to sponsor KI tournaments? Oh you mean like this one earlier this month?
I’m not the only one who can be using google here fellas.
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Personally, EVO seems to be overrated IMO. If we win, what happens? We get a spot on Sunday morning at 8AM so most people are asleep. I am much more interested in KIWC than EVO.
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I’m also more interested in KIWC. But why not push for both?
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Cross promotion and a very late start.
“Virtually” and “absolutely” have different meanings. Nobody here feels entitled to MS’s marketing budget.
I’m serious about that right side of the bed thing.