Mortal Kombat 11

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Sonya wears shorts. This whole thing about the outfits is such overblown ■■■■■■■■■ People just keep repeating it even though it’s absurd. The women are still wearing sexy clothes. It amazes me how all these people pretending that they support garbage pornographic outfits because it’s “the artists vision” suddenly don’t give a ■■■■ about the artists vision if that vision doesn’t have huge ■■■■ spilling out of a barely there thong outfit. Enough already.

As far as the deletion of the f bombs, I suspect they did it because they felt it was funnier. If not, then they just decided to tone it down a bit themselves. It was not imposed on them by outside forces or the ratings people.

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It seems like as you add hits the timing windows get narrower for the enhanced moves. I can’t seem to get Kung Lao’s enhances dive kick after a krushing blow uppercut either. Or Shang Tsings amplified hammer grab after his KB uppercut. Although It may be that some moves they just won’t let you do after a KB so maybe that’s part of the problem.

But in general as you do combos it feels like the timing gets tighter to me.

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Agreed… but but i think the enhanced button pressed shouldn’t have to be after the main button press, it should be at the same time like in MKX. I dont know why they changed it.

Now if the enhanced portion is on the 3rd hit of a special move, ok…but for a projectile like Kablas spinner… it should be X and RB at the same time IMO

Its just way too hard to get this enhanced spinner to get this sick combo a rollin… and like you said, the special move cancels sometimes are just way too strict. the input has to be before the krushing blow animates for sure… i think

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I would compare the differences in tone for MKX and 11 to be similar to Alien compared to Aliens(also appropriate given we’re talking MKX). Essentially they include the same graphic content; chestbursters, acid blood, facehuggers Alien face-tounge action. But Alien is a horror movie, while Aliens is an action movie. The first focuses on the visceral reactions of the victims and their sheer horror and pain of being ripped apart and essentially tortured, and the second more on blowing ■■■■ up, seeing a flood of acid as a few aliens go down in a hail of gunfire, burning everything with flamethrowers, etc.
I mean, take Scorpions face slice fatality form X and compare it to Baraka’s similar one in 11. In X Scorpion does a quick slice, but then we see the victim’s face go from pain to limp as it falls off and then it ends on a shot of the brain slowly sliding out of the skull while the tounge is still spasming. Baraka’s on the other hand; grab face, rip, throw, grab front of skull, rip, throw, stab brain, pull, bite. Never is the focus on what the victim is going through so much as it is what the attacker is doing to them.
…of course it’s all still subjective. What grosses one person out will not necessarily gross out another. But for the most part the tone has definitely moved away from Alien and more towards Aliens.

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That’s the world we live in unfortunately.

I saw this funny tweet one day about Sonya, where they showed this picture:

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Then a similar one to this one:

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Then this one with the caption:

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“WHERE DID THEY GO :sob:”

I couldn’t help but snort so loud at how absurd it was and the comments that followed it LOL

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Nah I don’t care about that garbage either, but it seems weird how the men can have minimal clothing for an arena fight but not the women. I mean, in real life female MMA fighters wear minimal clothing just like the men, but in MK11 it’s like the men are wrestlers and the women are mech suits by comparison. That and their statements before release which only added fuel to the fire at the time.

Maybe they’ll have more varied outfits as DLC later down the line, just seems they tried too hard to get away from the skimpy outfits only to go in the other end of the spectrum instead. Basically there’s no real balance on that front.

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As has been pointed out a few times already, men in “skimpy” clothing and women in “skimpy” clothing aren’t really the same thing. Johnny Cage in trunks is not equivalent to Jade in her UMK3 outfit. And MMA fighters wear sports bras that are very much designed to keep the girls tied down and unobtrusive, not to highlight cleavage and jiggle the way that gamers seem to love. For that matter, you rarely see particularly well-endowed women in combat sports period; the training needed to throw a good hook tends to tends to remove fatty tissues in the chest area. Gamers’ outcry isn’t about “realism” or “fair play”.

The same people screaming “free the artists and respect their vision” are the same people screaming about how much they hate that vision if it doesn’t include huge ■■■■ and cleavage. Until an artist comes out and says “we were censored” the same way QA people came forward and said “we were mistreated by NRS”, then there is no reason to assume that the art team didn’t get exactly the game they were looking for here.

EDIT: none of that is meant to imply that you are one of the ones “screaming” here. I just find the whole “controversy” around MK11 outfits incredibly tiresome and disengenuous.

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I’m pretty sure I’m just about “done” with krypt exploration. There are still a couple of doors that need skeleton keys, but they appear to only have a soul chest or koin chest behind them, though I did just find the Reptile statue behind one. I think there’s 1 or 2 heart chests left, and about 6 soul chests in the wooded area. I haven’t reset any of the chests yet because I wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing any important key items. And I’ve also dumped about 4mil in the shrine and so far no maskless unlocks yet.

Has anyone else noticed that when you use an AI and the computer shows Mercy, the game for some reason switches back over to manual play? I don’t know if you’d call it a glitch or oversight, but it was definitely a surprise when it happened to me.

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Oh, you monster, already have the first Dlc!! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Lol. Sorry, yeah I meant Shao Khan of course.

@TallerGorilla95 I know this subject has been beaten to death and I don’t want to reopen it. But I think an objective review of the women’s costumes in MK11 shows just as much variety and interesting design as in previous games, if not more. It’s fine to not like some or all of the designs. I don’t like Cassie Cage’s astronaut suit. But I don’t see how people can look at Kitana and Skarlett and Jade and say “all the women are now wearing armor and concealing clothing.” It just isn’t true.

@G1GlaciusPrime thanks for your insight on the fatalities. I hadn’t really thought about it, but my experience has been in line with what you say. While the fatalities are just as gory they are somehow less disturbing in MK11 than in MKX. I’m not sure how much if that is just desensitization and how much is “real.” I do wish the fatalities would go backwards to more closely resemble the brutalities. Then it wouldn’t take so long to sit through them.

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People fail miserably to understand the reasoning about women’s costumes changes in MK.

Let’s understand first the difference between “power fantasy” and “sexy fantasy”(casual translation from spanish terms, dunno the exact name in english)

A “power fantasy” is when a character is designed to fulfill the need to be powerful, destroy your enemies, overcome any challenge. To achieve this, in any given circumstance, the character must be well prepared, be strong, so they may be muscular, fit, and even sexy, but the goal is not to be attractive, it’s just a subproduct of being muscular and fit. Liu Kang, Jago, Ryu, Duke Nukem, Kratos, are just some examples.

A “sexy fantasy” character are characters designed with being attractive as main goal. They may be powerful, but that’s secondary, the first goal it’s to make them sexy. In this industry, women have been portrayed quite frequently as “sexy fantasy” for a long time. Mai Shinurai(KOF), Ivy(Soul Calibur), Quiet(MGSV) are prime examples of characters who their physical attributes are more important than anything else.

But, can be done otherwise? Of course! Lara Croft has walked the line several times between “sexy” and “power” fantasy, but her modern videogames are more focused on showing a credible female lead character. We also have some prime(pun not intended lol) examples in Samus Aran(Metroid Prime), a female strong lead character.

So, MK 11 comes out, and devs have to make a choice: should we go for sexy fantasy to our females, or power fantasy? The thing is, there are female games who like to pick a character who she can feel close enough, and sometimes that character being basically a DOA character makes less enjoyable this experience. So NR decided to focus their female characters about being awesome and charismatic, rather than distract us relegating them to be a pair of ■■■■■.

Dunno, MK X was already making this design choice, and I liked it back then, and I like it now. If people wants ■■■■■ fighting, go to DOA, but MK was always stellar for their Gore, not their sexuality.

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You mean Ivy?

@STORM179 @BigBadAndy @TheNinjaOstrich and @TallerGorilla95
Now it seems like they made the decision themselves. No one forced their hand, and no one said “go woke or go broke” if that was their choice, that was their vison. If they chose to make the characters skimpy with out someone forcing them then that is their vision and people should respect that too. But hey, it’s not like they can have some costume choices to satisfy both camps.

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Off-topic, but legit pet peeve of mine is how Samus in her zero-suit variation gets the generic waifu treatment. Samus Aran is the person you call when you need to wipe out an entire race of nigh-unstoppable bioweapons or mow down a legion of space pirates. The woman has seen some ■■■■. She is not your generic cutesy and waif-like anime chick.

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-end rant- :joy:

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Mistakes where made :frowning:

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As an overweight unattractive and Unathletic girl, sexually designed characters beating the ■■■■ out of people and monsters IS my power fantasy.

I’m not saying MK11 is bad for not having these types of designs or anything. It just means that if I want to fulfill that particular power fantasy… well I can’t do it here. I have to go play Bayonetta or DoA or SoulCalibur. Would I love to be able to cut Johnny Cage’s throat out with my fan blades while he’s struggling to contain the boner I give him. Absolutely. But NRS doesn’t want to do that kind of thing anymore so, cest la vive.

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For what is worth, I believe MK 11 girls are the prettiest female chars ever made by NR. I still remember the backlash of Raven in Injustice 1…

People were pretty mad XD

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What was wrong with Raven? I never understood the complaints.

And yes. They are still very pretty. It still doesn’t do much though. I hate that TNA is so tied into my power fantasies but… that’s just how it is.

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Raven was very popular due Teen Titans, a show where she was a cute girl

Injustice’s Raven was neither cute, or teen XD

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God. That ■■■■ show… it was so inaccurate to the comics and now it’s so popular and that’s what people think those characters are. I absolutely hate it.

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Sorry, just realized I never responded to this. From what I understand the button to press is 3. The timings on the hits are just frames though, so mashing honestly isn’t a bad option. There are specific timings, but since they’re just frames it’d be pretty tough to get them super accurately with a single press.