I play Omen too. Spend the bar, phase out. I know you have a bar to spare. No need to be all grumpy about it.
In the cornerā¦tacked on grenade. You blockā¦you get command grabbedā¦ you move or jump the grande goes off and you get hit with his sword with the long reach. Yes sometimes it effects Arbiterā¦but not every timeā¦ and even when he gets hitā¦he can still reach you if you dont immediately block.
You cant say that there is a guaranteed way to avoid this every time.
Even better, phase through and hit him with the grenade as a crossup~ turn his ammo for combos and setups into your own ammo for mixups!
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Have you tried jabbing him out of the grab? What about LP Orda? 3K Phasing?
If by āperfectā you mean āknowing what DOESNāT work and trying other optionsā, then apparently we do all play a pretty perfect game. Iām sure we all still get hit by Arbyās setups once in a while, but we donāt die free to them, nor get all attitudinal at people trying to help.
Also, as @DEClimax said, if youāre on point Omen can really style on Arby with his own grenades.
You donāt have to beat the setup every time. You just have to let them know that you DO have options, that you DONāT have to play THEIR game. Then they have to adapt to you, and you have more room to take initiative.
Also you can challenge those sword normals, and every Dash Sword gives you a turn. As Omen against Arby, these should be some long turns you can take. Remember that Arby has less to deal with your shenanigans than you do against him.
Im strictly working on Arbiter MU now and using him as well to understand him more. Like I saidā¦ Ive been able to escape it at times and other times not so much. I know how to use shadow form and its the better option but in the heat of battle some of these suggestions dont always work.
Thanks for the tips
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Yeah, thatās just the challenge of fighting games, though. You have a gameplan but you donāt always execute it well.
Thatās a lot different than āit never worksā which was the original claim.
Also, for what itās worth, the recapture hit stun from Arbyās grenade is way less than the grounded stagger hit stun. So if you jump, and Arby tries to command grab you and you BOTH get hit by the grenade, then you recover before him and you actually get to combo him.
Other than that, there is no timing (to my knowledge) that Arby can do a command grab where he gets a combo if you jump AND if you donāt jump. Iāve challenged people to show me this timing and no oneās managed to, so I donāt believe it exists. You will always have an option here if you guess correctly.
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Jump to avoid the corner command grab, start a combo from the air while Arby is recovering from 30 frames whiff command grab (donāt remember exactly as I canāt check it right now, but itās a lot), perform a invincible to projectiles shadow move or an ender move, so you are not affectes from the grenade.
Done.