Glacius vs Cinder - backstory

Glacius’ backstory kinda disappointed me, because they had no mention of his rivalry to Cinder. I was hoping they did. We’d have a KI Sub-Zero vs Scorpion kind of thing.

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I think that particular rivalry was more of a fan-based thing more than anything…

:fire: vs. :snowflake:

I get the feeling it’ll be addressed in Cinder’s story to some degree at least. It’s a ways til that though lol

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the rivalry will come!

but not yet! the story is only just starting…

I agree with this. I think it spawned from their conflict in KI 1, where it was canon that Cinder was his final opponent in the Tournament, the last thing standing between him and his freedom (and it was also canon that he defeated Cinder, might I add!). So I can understand how people would interpret that as a rivalry. And maybe Cinder would see it that way, since he’s an arrogant hot-head, I imagine he would have something to prove… but to me, Glacius doesn’t seem like a being to get wrapped up in petty rivalries (“Your conflict is beneath me”). He has a duty to fulfill to his people and he’s just doing what he can to take care of someone that stands in the way of that. Once he’s done that, he’ll be on his way.

Of course, now that Cinder shares his DNA he may have a more vested interest in making sure he stays down, giving that I am willing to bet that’s a fairly flagrant violation of the 66 Decrees–and his own being, no less, which is even worse in a way. Me, personally? I am really hoping to see a redemption arc for Cinder which allows him to team up with Glacius to fight Gargos and his legions… turn it into a friendly rivalry, if you will!

It’s actually more than that though. Not only was there that, but Cinder was tasked with killing Glacius. The deal Ultratech gave him was kill Glacius in return for a cure. So of course Cinder views Glacius as a rival, and with good reason. I do agree Glacius probably felt it less of a rivalry and more a final obstacle though.

In the KI reboot though, I definitely think it’ll be more the opposite. Glacius must view Cinder as a rival due to, as you mentioned, the fact he is a product of his stolen/altered DNA. But Cinder would probably see Glacius as another target, unless they give him a specific reason to hate him or something.

This is interesting! Lol I honestly have no desire for this to be Canon. But I absolutely want to see this lol someone make a fanfic or comic or drawing or something! Lol I don’t see the story going in this direction, would feel a little odd. At least with the whole redemption part anyway. I don’t see Cinder as the redemption type. But I mean, I can see Glacius and Cinder taking a truce to fight Gargos minions as you said, but ultimately Cinder would stay with Ultratech. So it would be temporary for sure. But I can see them fighting together like that and then once it’s over turning to each other and fighting for real! I don’t know what the chances are of this happening in Canon, and I wouldn’t be disappointed if it didn’t happen. But I wouldn’t be disappointed if it did. But honestly I just really wanna see it in some form now! Lol

The deal Ultratech gave him was kill Glacius in return for a cure.

Was that what it was? I thought he was going to earn an early parole, similar to Glacius winning his freedom… but then in his ending he realizes Ultratech has no desire to let him go, so he flees the scene before they can capture him. His story was sort of set up to mirror Glacius and that made it interesting in a unique way.

Lol I don’t see the story going in this direction, would feel a little
odd. At least with the whole redemption part anyway. I don’t see Cinder
as the redemption type.

Tbh neither do I, Cinder–in this iteration at least–has pretty much proven himself to simply be an ■■■■■■■ (thanks filter) that enjoys hurting people. But that’s sort of why I would like to see… maybe not a redemption arc, but some sort of motivational or personal struggle for the character. He currently has nothing but external conflict. Like… you mean to tell me he realized he was expendable to ARIA and he was completely alright with that? I dunno, I mean, he’s basically her lackey so maybe it makes sense but it just seems like it would be more interesting if he grappled with that a little bit. In the comics he was a lot different, and I enjoyed that moment where he realized how fucked up Ultratech was and finally decided to choose to act for himself and allowing Glacius to escape. It showed a neat little arc for the character and proved he wasn’t completely irredeemable.

I can see your suggestion about the truce being temporary completely valid, though, and I would be totally alright with that. I think you’re right, I think that’s about the only capacity in which it would happen in canon, especially since I’m probably in the minority of people who want to see something like that. <:]

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Well that’s why he became Cinder. It was to agree to become part of those tests in exchange for early parole basically.

Yea I’m not opposed at all to something like this happening. It would definitely give his character more depth like what you mentioned earlier, at least internal struggle if not redemption.

Yea well, you got me added to the minority at least :yum: lol

Well that’s why he became Cinder. It was to agree to become part of those tests in exchange for early parole basically.

AH yes okay thank you that makes much more sense! My ice alien knowledge is strong but I clearly need to brush up on canon knowledge in general.

Not a problem! I mean, it’s only Canon in the original game’s universe lol so you’re good either way :yum: