Current Shadow Points payout adjustment feedback

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@FeverAyeAye

The only effective shadow farming right now is by challenging 1000 point shadows. Look for the ones that have very negative W-L records, like Maximillian’s Fulgore. That nets you 1k SP for 2 fights. All other ways to farm SP are a joke compared to this, though. 50 SP here and there will not get you a 75k skin!

This is true, BUT…I’d say that there are a few secondary ways that are viable, though still they aren’t nearly as effective as farming 1,000 pt shadows.

1) Play Survival, but skip to the 1,000 pt shadows. It costs 200 SP to skip to the 1,000 pt Shadows, but if you win just 1 match you win back your investment. At that point, each win nets you 250 SP, and you can do this indefinitely.

A couple of days ago I did this and won 5 matches; that’s 1,050 SP, and that was enough to get my Daily Rewards too.

2) Play with friends. They changed the formula to level up Shadows in this last patch, meaning it is straight win record that counts towards what tier your Shadow is in. If you play with friends mostly, and your Shadow is good enough to rack up wins with them, then as you and your friend’s Shadow progress, you’ll get more SP out of each fight.

Say your Shadow is worth 250 SP, if your friend beats you, they net 250 SP for that win. AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, a bounty match is created, and if you win that bounty match, YOU net 125 P. Do the math here. If you have a group of friends (lets say 5) who are all in the 1,000 SP tier and you are trading matches with them regularly, you can net 5,000 pts in one sitting, then net 500 pts in every bounty match…and those can go back and forth indefinitely.

So yeah, playing with friends can be VERY lucrative once your shadow levels up some.

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@Iago407

-Lower every character’s mimic skin requirement to 25,000 or less. None of this 75K silliness.

I’m assuming you mean “Shadows Skins” here, not Mimic skins.

@Iago407

-Make any daily reward SP 1,000 or more, up to 5,000.

I agree that daily rewards should be more. If you can fulfill all the requirements you should get at least 500 SP, maybe even 1,000, not just like 150.

@Iago407

-Lower Mimic battle requirements to 25 matches per character or less. Any “beat Gargos” requirement should be five max.

I could get behind this, at the same time though I’ve already done most of the grinding for these so it is whatever for me personally.

@Iago407

-Raise all SP payouts for all matches. I think this is going to happen anyways, but whatever you’re thinking about, take it a notch higher still.

@Iago407

-Also, raise the payouts for beating Shadows in Shadow Lords. These should be 80 to 150 per match, not 25 to 45 or 50. Guessing the payouts are higher on higher difficulties, but still.

It is kind of lame to win a match in Shadow Lords and only get like 30 SP. And likewise I think in Survival you should get bonuses for beating a certain number of Shadows in a row. That or instead of just getting 25% of what the Shadow is worth per win in Survival, you should get at least half of the SP worth of that Shadow, if not the full amount.

All in all, most of the SP payouts are pretty low right now. When I see Jago’s, and so many other’s, Shadow Skins worth 75,000 SP, but beating a Jago Shadow in Shadow Lords only nets me 30 SP, I start wondering if they system is rigged against me. (Lol! We all know these models are all geared more towards getting you to spend the money/KI Gold for those things, but I think they could strive to make it seem a bit more fair for sure.)

@Iago407

-More shadow matches in Shadow Lords, like, a LOT more. Right now, in Normal, I go several rounds without a single Shadow match.

I think these are fine the way they are. As it stands now, you can skip all other matches and just play against Shadows if you want, so I see no reason to add more of the missions as you can play ONLY those if you choose to. That being said, I’d like to see more mission variants, than what is in there right now.

@Iago407

-Have dormant shadows automatically challenge your shadow, maybe what, 3 times a day? 5 times maybe?

What do you mean by this? Dormant Shadows?

@Iago407

I’m all for unlocking stuff while I play. I love it, in fact! I have all characters up to level 50. But right now, the climb feels so massive for mimic and shadow skins that it’s actually diminishing their value for me.

I think this here is the huge difference between how you and I see all this.

I haven’t gotten all my characters to lvl 50 yet, so playing Shadow Lords was pretty much going to be my way of doing that. Now that I can make a Shadow (and have a reason to stick with it out side of pride), I can fully dive into Shadow Lords to have fun playing with all the other characters and enjoy the grind of getting all my characters to 50, while unlocking Mimic Skins, and having fun earning Shadow Points by fighting Shadows in SLs and the Lab.

I agree that some SP costs and payouts should be reviewed, and I’m open to the Mimic requirements being looked at, but I think all in all they have a nice landscape laid out here. I think the biggest issue is how long it took to get here, and the fact that some have been grinding since day one. You have grinded all the characters to 50, now you have no secondary reason to grind for Mimic or Shadow skins. I mean sure there are all the dossiers and the like, but yeah, those aren’t the same.