Capitalizing on Tusk's staggers (setups inside)

Characters Tusk
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updated chart (I have not included immortal spirit because it does not stagger, the chart is only for staggers into staggers)

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follow up

I tested against cpu and while not breakable, the grab can be teched.

Anyways, if the grab is not teched and you counterbreak successfully after skewer, the damage is 98%:

backstab (first hit, not breakable), st.fp (second hit, not breakable), grab (techable but not breakable), skewer (breakable, let’s assume we counterbreak succesfully), fp auto, shadow skull splitter, (both inside lockout, so not breakable), shadow conqueror ender:

98% damage in a one chance to break

43% unbreakable in case they don’t take the cb bait

Also, I forgot: shadow conqueror ender only adds 5% of damage over normal conqueror ender, so this combo is actually 93% damage with only one shadow bar.
And 85% damage without shadow bars at all (replace shadow skull splitter with heavy linker skull splitter

In fact, 2 shadow bars only add 13% of damage

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Posted this in the other thread, but since this is the stagger thread:

When Tusk deflects an opponent, the resulting combo is stronger than the same move on counter hit:
EDIT: When deflecting an opponent, the deflect attack itself counts as an opener, so I’m afraid I’ve lied to you all.
I’ve revised the below list accordingly.
DOUBLE EDIT: So now I’ve learned that deflecting an airborne opponent does not count as an opener, only grounded opponents.

  • cr.MP, Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 37%
  • cr.MP (CH), Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 39%
  • cr.MP (DF), Shadow Splitter (breakable), Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 47% - 2 chance break
  • s.MP, Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 38%
  • s.MP (CH), Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 41%
  • s.MP (DF), Shadow Splitter (breakable), Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 47% - 2 chance break
  • s.HP, Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 47%
  • s.HP (CH), Shadow Splitter, Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 49%
  • s.HP (DF), Shadow Splitter (breakable), Heavy Manual xx Conqueror - 66% - 2 chance break
  • M Splitter xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 31%
  • M Splitter (CH) xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 35%
  • M Splitter (DF) xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 39%
  • H Splitter xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 34%
  • H Splitter (CH) xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 37%
  • H Splitter (DF) xx Shadow Splitter xx Conqueror - 47%

[Instinct]
cr.HP xx HP Conqueror xx HP Air Splitter (Manual) xx Shadow Conqueror - 33%

  • cr.HP (CH) xx HP Conqueror xx HP Air Splitter (Manual) xx Shadow Conqueror - 36%
  • cr.HP (DF) xx HP Conqueror xx HP Air Splitter (Manual) xx Shadow Conqueror - 53%

All of these are one chance breaks except for the deflect combos labeled as 2 chance, can be done anywhere, and deflect recaptures so it’s anti-air OK.

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Decided to give one or two of these a bit of a shot. Results of their first see is in the vid (along with the resulting salt Rash).

One thing I’m at a loss to do is when you have no shadow meter. If they’re in the corner a throw is enough to throw another ten to fifteen percent on the stagger. But outside of that …

I’m still learning alot but this makes hitting with those standing heavies really worthwhile.

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As for using the stagger without Shadow meter, you’re doing fine. If they’re close enough you can follow up with a s.MK or s.HK, otherwise you can go into LP Skull Splitter, shoulder charge, or slide to begin a combo.
Using the grab like you have been is also good, as it can’t technically be broken, but it can be teched.

Also don’t forget to go for those skewers for 5% more.

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Skewers getting broken are leaving me at a massive disadvantage knockdown, contrary to those new breaker rules.

I’m starting to not do them because 5% is not worth giving my opponent a plate of free oki

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Try this one= spinning stab, instinct cancel immediately, back up slightly, spinning stab, St hp, cr mp, St hk, <all manualls, shadow skull splitter x2, damage ender. Jump skewer if they don’t quick rise

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Fyi in instinct after conquered into air shadow skull splitter you can run cancel into df+k, while opponent is being knocked across the screen and follow up.

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You can actually turn you 98% into a full kill combo, after the counter breaker use heavy auto, light shoulder, medium auto, shadow skull splitter, shadow DP, it does 102% and so is a 2 chance escape (or rather DON’T escape) kill combo.

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