Just personal experience as a day one player, there were a ton of elitist players who were salty as hell that they “dumb them down” to 200 games.
Edit: Here’s some proof.
That’s all the proof I needed to see that it was 2000, I can believe that there were players frustrated and thinking that 2k matches wouldn’t be hard.
I think the requalify feature should be enough. Kan Ra is capable of destroying most bronze-tier players by simply using jump heavy punch the whole match.
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I have enough trouble getting through Killer Once, let alone 20 or so times to finish getting these achievements and I know others who would be likely to feel the same way, not all totally blind or VI players either. I understand what you’re saying but still, it’s not as easy as everyone seem to believe
I don’t think anyone’s saying its easy, the general consensus actually seems to be that its not as hard as you’re claiming. Not the same thing. Of course this being from the POV of (mostly) people without disabilities, we may be disconnected with the issues you face so.
My actual suggestion would be to play a set in Exhibition agaonst a friend with whoever you want to get the achievement with, get a hang of some of the basics and then go into Ranked.
You don’t have to make it to killer each time, you can just stay in bronze until you have them all.
oh new comers… its been a long time but wasn’t it originally play 1000 online matches per character for an achivement, then they changed it to win 20 ranked?
I would say I’m far from a newcomer, but I’m not entirely sure if you’re making direct reference to me. But as was shown in one of the posts above, it was actually 2000 matches before you got the chosen one achievements pre change.
Whilst I understand the angle you’re trying to get across, playing against a friend (and thus potentially being able to learn the basics), isn’t as insightful as you’d think. If I were to fight most of the people I’d fought before on a regular basis, even if they pick a secondary or a character they hardly play with, I don’t think I’d learn much just because of the setting/their skill level (they are mostly players who have had the game for a long time and even if they don’t mean to, they’d probably unintentionally stuff all my techniques etc, thus making the learning process more frustrating than insightful). It might seem like I’m generalising and maybe I am. I’m not saying your suggestion is completely out of the question - I understand your logic in suggesting it, definitely.
Just not sure how helpful it’ll be in the long run. If you watch, for example, myself and @Jukesy1992, a fellow totally blind player fight in this recent S3 Jago Mirror, you can see that this is evenly matched to an extent (I’m not posting this to make my opponent look like a bad player - I know he can fight better than this but I don’t have any recent footage of it, I’m trying to show that we are on a relatively even footing regarding reads/breaking etc).
however, in terms of ranked matches, the following was probably one of the most salt-infused matches I’d played in ranked (that takes into account most of the matches I can remember as of the time of this post including a fight with a Sadira who was about as annoying as this), fighting Glacius as Fulgore in a match I really just wanted to get out of the way This shows the struggle that a player who incessantly jumps can cause, making a match far longer than it should’ve been by most standards. I was trying to use the uppercut but kept unintentionally being just out of range. Moreover, this was in ranked, though it wasn’t recorded live, FYI, not that it really makes any difference here.
In a set I fought against Omega Sparx in exhibition, I went with my main as I wasn’t sure who he’d pick, having never fought him before but having an idea that he might go for TJ (what with the theme and all).
With this set, you can see how I tackle a matchup I know relatively well, but that occasionally, even with my main, I make some pretty bad mistakes really, sometimes due to a backdash (which thereby messes up your inputs.
I have another match that I can edit in once I’ve uploaded it as well, where I fight a Tusk, and it nearly ends in a loss.
The point I’m trying to get across is that I currently feel that I’d have to main any new characters who I don’t play much for a considerable period of time (probably weeks if not months), not playing any others, just to even have a remote chance of getting one win, let alone 20. Mira was luck rather than skill as I faced a Spinal who did nothing at all (if memory serves) and getting Spinal’s 20th ranked win, as can be seen in this match involved me facing what I would consider to be a far less skilled player (who made several crucial mistakes and didn’t break some of the opener endercombos I unintentionally I threw out).
I understand, as players such as @RGLOfficial have discussed with me before, that the game, of course, isn’t designed to cater to blind players as a majority and that we can only play the game as well as we can due to the hard work and cooporation of the developers and everyone else working on the game in addition to players like myself and @Blindgamer102 being willing to persever. However, feeling like you’re only getting achievements by luck rather than your skill, such that it is, is, for me at least, rather depressing.
I hope these videos and this post have helped possibly clear up my stance on the matter a little. I’ll happily try and answer any other questions if I can to do with this as it’s an interesting topic, namely how different disabilities can change the game in terms of an experience.
If you’d be happy to train with me though for a character like Kan-Ra, I’ll gladly take any help I can get.
On average, how is your win/loss ratio while playing ranked?
I went to TrueAchievements to make sure, the achievements require 20 wins in ranked. It’s not “consecutive wins”, just wins. Feels to me like even with your disability you should have them by now since you’re actively trying to get them. Are you sure your achievements aren’t just bugged?
Because honestly I think this one is an easy achievement. It was previously 200 from what I remember? That would be a really PITA but 20 is pretty reasonable.
Sure, your disability makes things harder and that’s why I’m asking how is your W/L. I don’t know, maybe I’m really disconnected but I don’t see how 20 non consecutive wins can take that much time for someone who’s actually trying to get them for all characters in such a long period of time.
Another question, how far are you to getting this for all characters? How many of them you already have?
As for your suggestion of making it “complete” 20 matches, I would understand reducing the number from 20 to maybe 10, but making it a 100% grind achievement by making it completely devoid of skill like that seems wrong. You could literally just enter Ranked Leagues and hold a turbo A button for each character and you would have all of them unlocked after a few hours.
If I could tell you my win/loss ratio on my own, I would. However the facility isn’t currently there to do that (until IG add an online opt-in stats system via an external website, as I’ve suggested should theoretically be a relatively easy addition on numerous occasions). I@ll have to get sighted help to let you know, if I can even find where that is stored as a stat.
The fact that it’s wins rather than completions isn’t really the problem as such. I am being, through unfortunate luck, matched with people who know the game inside out no matter what I pick, as I am in gold tier as of the time of this post. Moreover, I’ve got this far and after today’s set of matches I have half a mind to either go back and start again with new chars or to carry on, get killer (which will be a long, hard, gruelling grind that is worse than my first journey through due to the availability of Rash, Kim Wu, Arbiter and Mira primarily until they are patched/rebalanced based on community feedback) and then go back and earn these.
I’ve been playing the game since just before MKX launched and I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to go for these achievements with different characters and been stopped in my tracks by not even necessarily players who are actually more skilled than me but simply players who fight quote unquote dirty and gain their wins that way. Yes, they’ll probably (hopefully) get bodied at higher tiers and have to learn the hard way that their tactics won’t always work, but when I face them there’s not much I can do other than hit buttons and hope. I Practically downloaded a Jago but he still managed to beat me in a two out of 3 set (I had to play Fulgore really now I’m in Gold tier), and he, with no provocation, double ultraed me as well, thus putting an even greater dampener on my ranked session.
I appologise again if this post sounds salty. Fact is I faced a Rash in what turned into a 3 match set and he double ultraed me twice, with no provocation from me on the first instance, as well as a Kim Wu who just couldn’t resist using her dragon kick to hit me out of everything I did with far too safe a pressure imho. It’s just getting to the point where I’m wondering what game to play for a while to tide myself over until either the ranked system is more fairly balanced, or until I can force myself to brave it again, which ever comes first.
As for the characters I have, I most certainly have Fulgore, Spinal (by luck rather than skill), and Jago, possibly Wulf and maybe Thunder though I can’t be sure if that’s correct, I@ll have to check.
Thanks for your kind and civil response. Maybe we should play some sets sometime and you could teach me a few tricks with unfamiliar characters.
As someone who gets VERY salty when playing I can say that I hate when, after what I thought was a nice and close match, the other dude just decides to waste both our times by fighting the controller on a long double ultra, specially in a 2 out of 3 match after he wins just the first one. Worse, usually it’s just a boring ultra followed by instinct cancel, a couple of auto-doubles and linkers and another ultra, it’s not even enjoyable to watch!
As about those ranked wins, do you have any way to play while someone else is watching? I don’t know how you do it - if it was me I most probably wouldn’t play videogames, so congrats to you for not abandoning something you love - but maybe if someone else could coach you in a match you could at least react better to dirt stuff. At least to get those achievements maybe this could help a little.
That is exactly what i do. I have a lot of assistance when i play ki from my friends who have sight. I am coached by them all the time and i feel like i have gotten better and have improved this is a good suggestion. I am not going to pretend to know what achievement your going for @SightlessKombat but i am sure if you ask for help it will come it has helped me get better at the game. and i am greatful for what i have learned and overcome.
To both yourself and @Blindgamer102:
Thanks for responding so quickly. Unfortunately I know noone locally who can play KI, let alone to a high enough level, who has any sight whatsoever to watch me fight and comment on it with useful tech/advice/strategies etc. As far as my ability to call on local FGC members to assist in this (which U.S players seem to be able to do when they wish and yes, I’ll admit I am at least a little envious though there’s little if anything I can do about that), there is, as far as I know, very little of an FGC structure of any kind in the UK unless you happen to live in certain areas (like Manchester, Scotland or London) where there are specific teams. Those areas aren’t easy to get to for regular training as far as I’m aware, though I@m not saying that won’t change.
I@m not saying it wouldn’t be useful to have a coach or several, just that I wouldn’t know who to look to for this kind of assistance with the game. I’m also not saying that it wouldn’t improve my game, of course it would. I am open to any suggestions as to how to solve this issue - I can only think of one player I know even relatively well in terms of KI who might be willing to help, but we haven’t fought in a while and this kind of training is probably best done locally I take it?
Again, thanks to both of you for your assistance/advice/etc.
Do you have a friend that, even if not a gamer, would be willing to help?
You could teach them to give good enough advice. Obviously they can’t do any remotely high level stuff, but just answering your questions like what the enemy is doing and at what distance they are from you could help.
Not being blind myself means I don’t know exactly how they could help, but one thing I heard once from people without sight was that, when they need your help, they prefer to ask questions and hold your arm themselves rather than having you answer things they didn’t ask and you holding their hand (please correct me if I’m wrong here). If that’s correct then we could apply the same principle and you could have a friend answer your questions during a match. They would be quiet most of the time (as I believe you need to hear very well to react to things) but once you get lost about where is your opponent - after a back dash for example - you ask and they update you.
Anyway, I live in Brazil so I’m all too familiar about having no local FGC to rely upon. I hope you can find the help you need to improve because IMHO a strong community around you is a powerful tool to keep your interest in a game high. I know I’m playing KI 10x more than SFV just because I love being in this forum and the reddit page and talking to you all.
On the note of not understanding, I’d be happy to run a few blindfold training sessions with you so that you can get a feel for how the game is as an experience. I don’t really have any sighted friends who are gamers locally either, at any level. Not that I can think of either.
It’s a shame really, but if I think of others who might be able to help, then I’ll let ou know. Any help I can get though would be much appreciated.
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honestly i don’t get any help locally either man i play online and i play quite a bit KI is unique in that it has the best netcode in fighting games so that many players can play together. Online matches help quite a bit now i am not talking about just play a couple i am talking about play around 50 to 100 matches in a set. i play with people that love the game and we are no where near one another for example during my stream i played with a friend of mine and we had a set of 45 matches. I feel like just playing the game will help you understand what and what not to do in certain situations. even if you did want coaching i am sure many people would love to be on the mic with you just talking about the match ups and such. I am saying this from experience by no means am i a good player but i feel like i have improved a great deal by just playing online exabitions and talking with other members. there is a KI reddit discord that has plenty of people on it that love to play and level up. and they range from beginner to high level play.