I thought this was a discussion? You know, on the forums. I guess I should keep my obviously invalid opinion to myself.
Sure it would. Like DK mode and paintball mode fits Goldeneye. Serious games do silly things all the time.
I think your analogy is pretty irrelevant and terrible, but itās also wrong in terms of the kinds of extra content game devs and musicians put in their products.
This is such a disgusting sentiment. Youāre entitled to think what you want within the confines of your own brain, but if your opinion isnāt swaying anyone or standing up to scrutiny then your opinion is not entitled to an ongoing place in public discourse by default.
Well Dark Souls does have items that replace your head with a treasure chest or increase your breast size, and rocks that explode and say āIām sorryā in comical distorted voices, a cooking ladle thatās classified as a warhammer, and every other message reading āTry Tongue But Holeāā¦
But seriously, with no offence intended. If you donāt like Mira, donāt play her. I donāt play Kan-Ra, Cinder, ARIA, Kim-Wu, or Eyedol because I donāt have fun with them. If you donāt like Mira, thatās totally cool. But itās kinda hard to ask for the changes you want when the thing you dislike is the part that those who play her really love.
@Fnrslvr
It doesnāt matter if my opinion stands up to scrutiny, its a public forum so Iām entitled to say whatever I want as long as its within the rules of the site. If people feel the need to belittle my opinion and disregard my perspective with snarky replies like āWell if you donāt like it, donāt play itā Iām well within my rights to end the conversation regardless of how ādisgustingā you think my sentiment is. I was making a point, one that obviously was disagreed with but still it was my opinion and I would think folks would respect it.
@Fwufikins
I guess I picked the wrong battle, I donāt play Dark Souls and clearly everyone here is going to dog me for feeling as I do because Iām wrong.
The problem is I DO like Mira, I like her a lot. Sheās got a costume from one of my favorite games of all time, Fable and its of my favorite character. I WANT to play her but her design is so gross (to me) that it prevents me from enjoying the character and potentially spending money to support the game by buying items for her.
How is that snarky?
When I make a long drawn out post about the issue and your reply is a quick ādonāt like itā quip its a little rude, if you ask me. Basically disregarding everything I said because had you engaged with the conversation youād know I do like Mira, a lot and I want to support the game but its not easy for me to do so when the character is designed the way she is.
Sorry if Iāve sounded standoffish but man, I come here to discuss stuff, not be shut down.
Nobody said you canāt post your opinion. Youāve already done that. You proclaiming āIām entitled to my opinionā therefore is either entirely redundant, or an attempt to score your opinion a free pass in a debate ā the latter of which is predominantly what āIām entitled to my opinionā is used for by people angry about losing ground in an argument.
We get that you are entitled to express yourself. Thatās not what the phrase āIām entitled to my opinionā means. That phrase is the antithesis of informed discussion and a blight upon the modern world, and I advise you to reject it in general, not just here.
I getcha.
I donāt like playing aganos, so I donāt play him. Same goes for hisako. I love both of their character designs to death and I appreciate the mechanics they bring to the table, but I donāt like to play them. Thatās just fighting games, man. Not every design is going to appeal to every kind of player.
I posted a short response because I didnāt think it would be necessary to say more. āPlay the characters you like and donāt play the ones you donāt likeā seems pretty straightforward to me.
I understand. As a Halo fan, I wanted to like Halo 5. But there were certain design decisions that I felt crossed the line, and I havenāt bought it, and I probably never will.
Same goes for why I never bought the multiplayer DLC for Doom. The multiplayer was fun, but it wasnāt something Iād want to spend money on versus a singleplayer expansion.
And donāt get me started about how much it hurts to be a Call of Duty fan right nowā¦
But if people still enjoy those things, Iāll go ahead and let 'em. Thereās enough fun stuff in the world that I can survive my own disappointments to let others have their fun.
It was supposed to be how this one crazy mechanic limits her accessibility.
Aganos doesnāt have any crazy features that make him unplayable to most players, its not the play style that is unappealing, its one singular mechanic. I donāt know, I donāt see people playing her often despite how great everyone here is saying she is.
Fulgore had some very unfriendly mechanics and he was adjusted for the sake of accessibility and judging by the poll in this thread others like myself think Mira is a little tough. Iām just saying maybe she should be adjusted, thatās where the discussion was supposed to go.
Well, sorry the discussion isnāt going where you wanted it to (that one WAS snark.) I donāt agree with the idea of making her less unique just because some people arenāt willing or able to learn to work with her mechanics.
I know Keits has repeatedly said that Mira is easily one of if not the best character in the game (on Twitter he put her in his Top 2) so thereās probably a reason sheās difficult to use.
I remember when Kan-Ra first came out everyone was concerned that he was too weak, too hard to useā¦ Then Sleep took Frosty Faustings.
Somebody doesnāt like Aganos!?
GASP
FTFY.
Most complex: Mira
Hardest: General RAAM.
I really dig him and find him the best addition (with Mira to season 3). But I donāt understand why a character that isnāt part of another fighting game gets to be one of the least enjoyable archetypes to just pick and play (win). Bringing in new fans and players of other genres, I would have expected a more straightforward and more mobile character like for example Rash. Getting in on your opponent can be quite hard. But his style does fit him well IMO.
If I recall correctly, the devs said Fulgore was asjusted because his gameplay allowed for eternal zoning against some characters(remember angled fullscreen H laser or triple fireball without pips), so they wanted to focus him more into playing the combo system.
It was not a matter of accessibility, it was a matter of degenerative gameplay. Thunder was doomed against him
About Mira, she is very fun to play when you know how to use her, but of course she is hard to! IMO if she would be easier to use (without the blood mechanic) she wouldnāt be so apparent
I get the feeling Raam kind of fell victim (in terms of ease of use) to the devs trying to remain faithful to his roots as a character. Raam in Gears is a bruiser, plain and simple, and the archetype that fits him best is one where he just kind of walks you down, which just happens to correspond with traditional grappler. For what itās worth, I think they actually made him about as āeasyā to win with as can be expected. He actually does very well against āstandardā characters - itās against the nutty āescapersā and uber-zoners that he has issues.
While I think @DEClimax and @Fnrslvr might be coming on a little strong @xCrimsonLegendx, I do agree with their overall point that Miraās uniqueness is an asset and not something to be shunned. Youāre absolutely entitled to your opinion and you have the right not to be belittled for it, but itās fine to challenge some of your premises. There are a lot of characters in KI that I find very interesting and compelling design and gameplan wise, but whose playstyles I abhor and so leave alone. I love love love Mayaās aesthetic and game design, but due to a torn rotator cuff that Iām avoiding surgery on I canāt actually play her (too many rapid-fire QCFās required). Sometimes characters just donāt mesh with people, for whatever reason. Sometimes itās aesthetic, sometimes itās archetype, sometimes itās ease of use.
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Whilst Miraās health management is complex I feel as though a newbie Mira player would win against a newbie Gargos player. Hence why I voted Gargos.