Mortal Kombat 11

That is indeed what happens. So if you use a present day (old) Johnny skin, or a past Johnny skin, he’ll still hit on Cassie. He’ll still comment about how “old man me” told him stuff, even if you are using old man Johnny skin.

Revenant Kitana will still call her revenant a greater offence than Mileena.

All the Multiplayer dialogue in Mortal Kombat 11 seems to have been done from a single version of the character only.

In Mortal Kombat XL, the game actually took skins into account and had varying dialogue options based on that.

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Huh! No kidding. Thanks for the heads up, man. I honestly never noticed this for some reason. But yeah, since that’s the case, I can see why Cassie’s inconsistencies would stand out so much. Great point, and thanks for correcting me on that. Much appreciated. :slight_smile:

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No problem. I was doing a simple Klassic Tower run last night as Liu Kang in his default revenant skin.

Scorpion: Your revenant is still a threat.
Liu Kang: I thought he was destroyed?
Scorpion: He’s more resilient than you or Raiden suspect.

But my Liu Kang is the revenant!!!

Anyway, it’s not something I freak over, though it is a shame they couldn’t have been a little more detailed and not have stuff like that happen like they did in Mortal Kombat XL. Oh well.

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I wish that, if they were gonna do it that way, they wouldn’t have made revenants/older versions the default.

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I also really like the Revenants.

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Played against a really great friend of mine and he chose Scorpion…

He only won 2 matches out of 17 in total.

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I don’t. I hate the revenants and Dark Raiden and wish I could just ignore them. Which I can’t do because of the costume settings.

What the heck is that image i’m choking with laughter

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It’s the Tom Cruise Laughing Meme - Shao Kahn Edition.

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What specifically do you hate about them?

It was a frustrating plot element that took characters I had loved and grown fond of and made them, well, the opposite of the characters I had fallen in love with. It was fine for the stories, MKX didn’t really make up for it, but MK11 did thanks to time travel as I still got to see the characters I loved actually be themselves and not the dark evil parodies of themselves Shinnok turned them into. And while I’m fond of the fact that battle mode uses the past versions (keeping the characters IN character), I don’t like having to look at these evil doppelgangers instead of the actual characters unless I make this game my job and spend hours doing the krypt and completing towers with no story element to them.

If you think about it, the MKX story suggested that as long as Quan chi was alive the revenants could be restored. But sense Scorpion killed quan chi that was not going to happen. Time travel however fixes that problem.

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Yeah. I expect the next game to go in a new direction. Doesn’t really fix this game though.

Hopefully one that includes not only reptile but perhaps this time the Saurians are not extinct.
So reptile’s whole motive is to protect his species which would be endangered to the point where he’s intimidated into doing bad things to keep them from being killed off.

But that’s just what I want it to be.

I thought the Revenants were well done. The characters have been around for twenty odd years, so it was interesting seeing a different take on them. They were indeed the same characters, but with all their negative emotions and personality traits brought to the forefront.

In terms of skins in Mortal Kombat 11, some start with a non-Revenant skin available, others are super easy to get. Simple play Jade’s Tutorial, for example, and bam, instant non-Revenant skin. Getting one for each character is pretty easy and doesn’t take a lot of time or grinding.

@justathereptile Yeah, Scorpion screwed up pretty big in Mortal Kombat X.

Overall I find Mortal Kombat X’s story to be the weakest of the three games. There’s several pretty big plot holes and dropped concepts that simply don’t make sense at all.

I can’t decide which story I like better between Mortal Kombat (2011) and Mortal Kombat 11, both are excellent and have their own pros and cons.

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I mean, that’s a fine interpretation, but I’VE only been around for 20 odd years, and I’ve only been a fan of Mortal Kombat for about 5 of them. So it was frustrating for me to see these characters I had JUST gotten to know in MK9 be turned into something completely other. It just… wasn’t fun for me, though I can understand why it would be fun for others.

And I don’t just want A non revenant skin. I want THE non revenant skin. The ones they use in Story Mode. I have variants of most of them, but all in these bizarre off-colors because they count a pallet swap as a different costume.

Seriously, It would have been great if they had made it so you unlocked Color 1 of a skin set AND THEN could start unlocking the pallet swaps. Or gave the story mode costumes to you as a reward for clearing their story chapter. Something.

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Yeah, I thought the Revenant storyline was a cool addition to the series’ lore. Liu Kang spent like 20 years being the chosen one, so it was an interesting change of pace to have him be the chief Revenant of the bad guys (and a better one than killing and zombifying him, ala DA and Deception/Armageddon). It was interesting to see the bad versions of all these characters who we’d known to be the main series protagonists for all these years, and it gave the narrative room to breathe in terms of shining the spotlight on other MK stalwarts. Johnny Cage, for my money the very best characterization they’ve done in the series, doesn’t get to grow the way he has if Liu Kang and Kung Lao aren’t removed from the picture somehow. The Revenants were a cool way to accomplish that I think, letting them (and importantly, the players) still play with those former heroes even as they focused their narrative efforts elsewhere.

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While I personally agree with @STORM179, I understand where you’re coming from.

One thing I find very interesting about the reboot storyline for Mortal Kombat is the parallels that occur with the original timeline, despite how much events have changed, and despite the timeline lasting much longer (since Armageddon was avoided), yet certain character fates still occur, though they’re brought about differently.

Dark Raiden, for example. This character existed in the original timeline, and was created by Raiden absorbing some of Onaga’s energy after his “death” at the beginning of Mortal Kombat: Deception. You see Dark Raiden as he’s killed by Shao Kahn at the beginning of Mortal Kombat (2011), when he sends his memories back to his past self and alters time.

Yet despite this, and despite avoiding the rebirth of Onaga in this timeline, Raiden still ends up becoming Dark Raiden via different means (by absorbing Shinnok’s corruption from the Jinsei in Mortal Kombat X).

In the original timeline, Kung Lao, Kitana, Johnny Cage, Sonya Blade, and Jax are all killed by Shang Tsung and Quan Chi, and they’re resurrected from the dead by Onaga but bound to serve him. They’re later saved by Ermac, who also houses Liu Kang’s soul. While not the exact same as becoming Revenants, it’s certainly a parallel concept, and similar scenario for Kitana, Kung Lao, and Jax.

Speaking of Liu Kang, he’s killed in the intro cinematic of Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance by Quan Chi and Shang Tsung, and brought back as a zombie by Dark Raiden in Mortal Kombat: Deception. Yet another parallel.

For skins, yeah, each character really has about half a dozen skins, and the rest are palette swaps. I personally prefer how skins were done in the previous game, but I’m not up in arms about the skin system in this game like many are.

In time you can usually get the skins you want, but at least there are cool alternatives to use while you wait.

Just one of things that shows what happens when you let your emotions stomp out your logic.
Though one complaint I did have about MKX was most of the new gen characters. But I did like how Reptile has been getting better treatment and more of an active role in the story. Still a shame I don’t know what happened to him in the MK11 timeline.

But speaking of missing characters in MK11.

Yup. Emotions are great, they help us and are a part of us, but knee-jerk reacting, or obsessing, oft leads to serious issues in real life.

I didn’t mind the new characters. Mortal Kombat X came out in 2015, and the last game in the franchise to have new characters, as I recall, was Mortal Kombat: Deception in 2004! It’s been a while and some fresh blood is not a bad thing.

Interesting tidbit for those who don’t know: Midway had actually gotten tired of the same old characters game after game after game, so with Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, the plan was to kill everyone off so they could start completely fresh with the next game.

Midway got into financial trouble though, and they ended up partnering with Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment to make Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe instead. While the game was not well received, it was still good enough to entice WBIE to purchase the franchise and to hire on the development team when Midway went bust, and thus we now have NetherRealm Studios.

They had to restore franchise faith, and shifted to proper competitive play and design, for Mortal Kombat (2011), so they went with the supreme klassic roster, but for Mortal Kombat X, I truly believe they were testing the waters with many of the new characters to see if they could replace some of the old timers.

The game was set 25 years later, characters like Johnny, Sonya, Jax, Kenshi, etc. were older, and many of the “wonder kids” I believe were set to take their place. Since only a few of the new characters were praised though, I believe NetherRealm decided not to follow through on this.

For the story of Mortal Kombat X, some of my beefs, as I mentioned, are the plot holes. For example, we never find out how Mileena got the Amulet of Shinnok. It’s said Rain stole it for her, but then it’s implied that Kano did. At one point Raiden is remote communicating with Sonya while investigating the Amulet’s supposed vault, and he mysteriously has to cut communication as if he’s about to be in trouble, and that plot line is completely dropped and not followed up again! There’s more, but stuff like that was just a head scratcher.