Couldn’t they hire amazon games studios then?
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Food for thought for anyone who makes suggestions for the game. It is all well and good, just make sure you have an equal amount of acknowledgement for what is good.
I don’t care how right someone may be, no one, likes to constantly be bombarded with “what can be better” and suggestions. Sure they are helpful, but if someone is known as a complainer, there is a good reason the credibility of your argument is compromised. If you want to make fair suggestions and criticism, make sure to balance good and bad. Otherwise, the discussion quickly turns into a negative, entitled, and non-engaging base for discussion no matter how valuable the information may be.
You don’t like Dojo because it’s only Jago?
Dojo mode only uses Jago, which is relatively good because Jago essentially represents the universal fundamentals of fighting games. His tool-set cover most angles there are to know about KI while also clearly teaching the user of the mechanics. Though, it would be pretty cool to have additional cast members to reference because KI’s unique roster.
Just be aware that pro’s should never be the sole representation of the entire community. SFV took that approach and it was quickly established that the game is less fun than previous installments, according to the vocal majority. That isn’t to say your voice doesn’t matter though, it still very much does. Just not as much as some pro players are inclined to believe (I’m not referring to you either).
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Well, Larry himself called it a rant in the video. I mean, he spent two hours in front of the camera on that and a fairly large portion involved him complaining and in some cases, doing so to the point of actually frustrating himself; where he actually had to calm himself down.
Sure, maybe that was for effect, but I don’t think that calling what he did a “rant” is the worst thing ever. Some people use it interchangeably (right or wrong) with simply getting a lot off your chest at once. It doesn’t necessarily have to involve tons of yelling and rage, ya know?
My response to him could be constituted as a rant as well. It’s extremely long and at points, I get frustrated with what he was saying. I don’t hate the guy, of course. I don’t know him. He seems like he loves KI and he shows passion for it. I can respect that.
But telling everyone here that we’re “the problem” when he’s the one spreading negativity, on his way out the door, no less… I don’t know. I’m not sure that makes a whole lot of sense to me.
As for Andy writing half a page of “god knows what,” you have to realize (if you’re not aware already) that a substantial portion of that video Larry posted involved things that he’s been complaining about for a long time now. At some point, I think it’s only natural for people to get frustrated at hearing those same things over and over again, even if it’s in the current context of “reasons why I’m leaving.”
Just my two cents though. FWIW, I listened to the entire video. I’ve watched or listened to a fair number of his videos over the years and read tons of his posts on the forum since the old DH forums back in the first season. Many of us have. It’s part of the reason why some people are posting what they’re posting without having seen this video. They know a lot of what he said without having to see it.
Can you explain a bit why it’s so much worse to play competitively now as opposed to casually? I’m a casual level player, so I’m curious if you could specify what feels off. You also say glitchy. Do you think it’s a lot worse this year than it was when previous season’s content came out? I mean worse to the point of not being fun anymore?
As a pro player, what type of advice would you give them in terms of putting together a season of content going forward that you think would’ve helped in season 3? I mean, I get that you don’t like flipout. Would you remove it entirely? What do you think would put KI back on the right path?
Just curious.
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I respect that!
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This video is too long for the point of it. Wish it was shorter.
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@SLHiImKeith Just read the quoted post here. It covers every point LCD was trying to make in that video.
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Do you know how much money it would cost to higher Amazon just to make a niche game in a niche genre?
That is how fighting game cycles work. I liked mvc3 then lost interest in UMvC3, or to give another example, I cannot remember how many KOF titles I skipped because of new mechanics. Some iterations just don’t catch on with you even if you’re the series’ biggest fan. I’m pretty sure I’ll be trying out KI4 and if I don’t like it, then see you again for KI5, then 6, 7,…you get the point.
Cheers!
When a person keeps complaining about a video game character not showing enough skin, its kinda hard to take them seriously lol also, if you’re gonna stop playing a video game, then just stop, like a normal person lol give a quick farewell to the community if you must, but a 2 hour video?
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If 0/10 of the pros are unhappy, then 10/10 are happy?
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And are there only 10 pros? And are those pros the be all and end all of KI expertise and opinion? From experience with other video games, table top games and even sports, I’m okay with players saying their opinion but not with them being the ultimate decision makers when it comes to rule changes and/or balance.
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I just had too…
Dude…Im defending you,…phhphhhh figures… people read things and dont actually READ
I never said you consistently loose… bruh pay attention that post was about Larry, use the button that shows you what its replying too.
And BTW @F3Sleep… look a few posts down from my original post that your so quickly quoted and see where IM defending you and look above it to see where its a discussion about LCD.
SMDH…dude I thought were were cool but now Im disappointed.
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I don’t have any issue with your opinions on the game and I think you have generally handled it in a classy way. But this quote is 100% the reason we have all this noise. Please name one fighting game where the devs call up the EVO top 8 and discuss how to make them happy with the game? It’s also a complete fallacy to suggest that keeping the top players happy is the way to make a great game and - with all due respect, it represents the oversized egos that are involved here.
Since @llPaulBll seems to insist that we all listen to the exact same complaints over and over again and that somehow it’s unfair not to sit through them from start to finish, I will say this again. You guys have a very disproportionate understanding of how important you are to the game. Especially LCD. And as always the thread devolves because anyone who isn’t appropriately respectful of LCD gets ripped. LCD isn’t appropriately respectful of anyone, and he HASN’T “done so much for the game.” Playing a game and streaming it and placing in tournaments doesn’t make you part of the development team. And LCD’s constant complaining has not helped KI in any way.
@ItzTymeToDul c’mon man don’t go there. LCD puts his opinions out there with a lot of emotion and hyperbole. If people respond in kind that’s not “hate speech.” @FallofSeraphs76’s comments are not very constructive but they aren’t less constructive than LCD’s and they certainly aren’t hate speech. I wish we could all make as constructive comments as @Iago407 all the time, but people get burned out.
As far as dividing the community see the quote above. Hearing people say a game you love is trash because the developers didn’t call them for advice is gonna make people angry every time. If you come to the forums and ask KI fans to pick sides between angry pro players and KI you can’t blame the fans who side with the game for “dividing the community.”
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Besides my few friends on here, Im pretty sick of the community myself. They are great in person but on here its all tough guys and arguing. Not to mention online play…I just played for 2 hours for the first time in 3 weeks…every match my opponent tried to tea bag, double ultra if they won, and I got 3 rage mails. WHY? Why did every opponent act like a total ■■■ hat? I dont mind taunting, but the other stuff unprovoked gets old.
I slowly find myself playing less and its not because of the game…its the players online from ranked, facebook and the forums.
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I’m just waiting for the next fighter to pick up competitively.
Casually this is fun like @F3Sleep said, but the issues have increased over time & it really shows when the faces of the community have left.
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You quoted the wrong person, dude. 
There is a lot of that happening on this thread LOL
There’s a little arrow that shows the whole thing I’m quoting. I don’t know how to take out your bits.
Ah, no worries dude. I didn’t see that on mobile.
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