Oh hey, somehow I didn’t notice this thread existed before now. This game is looking really cool, it’ll probably be the first fighting game I make an effort to follow and get into since KI.
I just finished binge-rewatching Z in its entirety, and also caught up to episode 27 of Super (I can’t stand the Japanese dub so I guess I’m stuck at the end of Resurrection F waiting for the relevant production companies to decide they want my money ), but I don’t have any exposure to Dragon Ball, GT, or the movies. Based on that, I threw together a kinda rough 24-character roster:
- Goku
- Gohan
- Vegeta
- Frieza
- Cell
- Fat Buu
- Future Trunks
- Krillin
- Picollo
- Yamcha
- Tien
- Hercule
- Videl
- Supreme Kai
- Nappa
- Zarbon
- Captain Ginyu
- 18
- 17
- Babidi
- Dabura
- Kid Buu
- Beerus
- Whis
I think most of the Z fighters are shoo-ins, whether you think their power levels are up to snuff or not. I want Hercule in there because it’d be funny to lab him up and then body people with him online, and it’d be hilarious if Mr Satan turned out to be OP and someone took Evo with him. I think wizard-esque characters like Supreme Kai, Babidi, and Whis have a lot of potential to have interesting combat designs, which allows ArcSys to shine. Nappa is in because I’ve seen the Saiyan saga re-screened on free-to-air TV too many times to count, which was mostly Nappa beating on the Z fighters for a large amount of episodes, so I suspect he’s well-remembered. Zarbon and Ginyu are probably the most memorable Frieza henchmen, and they’d probably also make for interesting combat designs. Dabura might be one of the easier villains to remove from the list, but I thought the Buu arc roster might be a little thin without him, and, again, combat design potential. One of the “thin” Buus makes sense to include since it would probably play pretty differently from fat Buu, so I just picked the final form. I thought Beerus and Whis might both be too overpowered lore-wise to fit, but then I remembered that Xrd has a character who fights whilst taking a phone call throughout the match, so ArcSys have a veri applicable out here.
Characters I thought about that didn’t make the list include Chiaotzu, Chi-Chi, King Kai (North), Pikkon, various fusions (I could see Gotenks getting in, but I’m hedging against fusions for now for a few reasons), Tao (probably the easiest Dragon Ball reference?), Raditz (easily overshadowed by Nappa), Dr Gero (I don’t get the impression that Gero got a lot of screen time in Dragon Ball, otherwise between that and being 20 he’d probably make my list), and 16.
Obv. totally ignored the movies, in part because I haven’t seen any of them but also because apparently they’re not canon. If other more-informed people think that characters like Broly have to be in there then I’m probably off base here.
If we get support-focused characters, I hope we get something crazy like 0-health Bulma in an entirely support role throwing out capsules or gathering dragon balls or something.
May as well sign me up for the Videl fan club as well. For my money, the Great Saiyaman saga was the best part of the Buu arc by far. They did a great job of building up conflict between Videl and Gohan, the entire arc could’ve grown out of that setup. Instead they kinda threw it all out the window when they cut her hair and switched out her fiery personality in pretty much one fell swoop – basically erasing the entire character – and replaced the setup with the Buu exposition dump shortly thereafter.
I don’t even think they would’ve needed to go about powering Videl up to make her relevant – they could’ve continued to use her as a foil for the exponential power creep of the previous arcs, they could’ve drawn out the tournament over several in-universe days and slow-rolled the Babidi/Buu reveal. Instead the arc went through a few too many farfetched twists, threw away even more setups, and ramped up a bunch of fake stakes by killing everyone and destroying Earth (and without giving any reason to doubt that the Namekian dragon balls would inevitably come to the rescue), in the process getting rid of nearly every interesting character. It left me sour to all of the power creep in DBZ in general.
I do think the arc did some good stuff, mind. Vegeta had a very good arc, and I like how Mr Satan stumbled into doing something useful and selfless. But it fumbled a lot of good opportunities, and Videl was at the top of the list.
I generally like the lighter side of Super, and I think Bulma really carries the first two seasons, but I think Frieza’s return was mostly terrible. Also although I mostly like Beerus as a character, the power creep is a problem that weighs on my enjoyment of the battles.